if calzaghe took frochs route, would he have a loss??

**-JUGGERNAUT-** · 06-11-2011, 05:06 AM

Pascal: Calzaghe outworks Pascal to a wide UD. Pascal has stamina issues, doesn't have the power to stop Calzaghe nor the skills to out-point him.

Taylor: Too small. Overrated American bum. Calzaghe annihilates Taylor and stops him late.

Dirrell: Andre pulls out of this fight once it's signed, citing a urinary tract infection or some other bullshit.

Kessler: Been there, done that.

Abraham: One dimensional Armenian gets clowned on. Wide UD.

Johnson: How many losses has this bum had? This would be a no contest.

Conclusion: Calzaghe runs through this pack like a hot knife through butter.

**nomadman** · 06-11-2011, 05:11 AM

It depends on if he fought them in the timeframe Froch fought them. Calzaghe had terrible hand problems, and it's likely he would need time off after some of those fights. But if we're just talking about a H2H with the opponents then yeah, I think he still remains unbeated. Pascal would have been badly outpointed in a similar but not so one-sided way as Lacy was, as would Abraham. Kessler we already know about. Johnson (who gets horribly overrated IMO) would have given him some problems but would ultimately have lost a fairly clear points decision. Taylor would have been befuddled by Joe's unorthodox style and succumbed to a UD. Dirrell is the biggest question mark. I suspect Calzaghe wins it, but I can't picture how in my head.

**Rip Chudd** · 06-11-2011, 05:19 AM

I think Calzaghe embarrasses Pascal. Not much competition there

Taylor fight would be good. The JT that fought Froch was still ok but still not prime. Calzaghe doesn't have the power to stop him. I'm thinking a UD for Joe.

Dirrell fight would be awesome. Too hard to pick a winner in that fight cause again Calzaghe doesn't have the power to keep Dirrell on the backfoot like Froch. Toss up fight, either man can win.

Kessler like everyone said we already know how that story goes.

Abraham would be another sparring session for Joe.

Johnson is another tough one for me. If it's the Johnson that just fought Froch then i'd pick Joe. But if it was the Johnson that was looking to fight Joe and Joe didn't even want to mention his name then I'd go with Glen. Not saying Joe was scared of Glen but like a prime Roy and Hopkins I don't think Calz wanted any part of that.

**gmc_rfc_06** · 06-11-2011, 05:24 AM

I would tip Dirrell to beat Calzaghe.

The rest though, I'd favour Joe pretty comfortably.

**slimshandy69** · 06-11-2011, 05:35 AM

i think so of you guys are missing the point of the thread, for example joe had alot of "paddin" inbetween his best wins, plkus often never had to travel.

could joe beaten kessler, in denmark, whjere kessler is obviously a different fighter, could he have travelled to america and beaten taylor, most of frochs wins were in a row and travelling.

If joe prepared individually for tghese fights then no doubt he would win., but the toll on taking on the best time and time again, especially going abroad for most of them is very tough.

Would he have still be undefeated...???

**Rip Chudd** · 06-11-2011, 05:38 AM

Oh sorry man, guess I misunderstood. Then my answer is no, he'd at least would of lost one. Even though I had him losing one anyway.

**-JUGGERNAUT-** · 06-11-2011, 05:40 AM

Originally posted by slimshandy69

i think so of you guys are missing the point of the thread, for example joe had alot of "paddin" inbetween his best wins, plkus often never had to travel.

So? He proved at the tail end of his career, travelling was a non-issue.

could joe beaten kessler, in denmark, whjere kessler is obviously a different fighter, could he have travelled to america and beaten taylor, most of frochs wins were in a row and travelling.

Kessler is not a different fighter in Denmark. The hometown support would just be to his advantage if the fight was close, like his bout with Froch, which incidentally, if that were in Nottingham, it would've been a Froch win. However, Calzaghe vs Kessler was not close so you could have that fight in Tripoli and it wouldn't make a ****ing difference.

Would he have still be undefeated...???

Yes.

**nomadman** · 06-11-2011, 05:40 AM

Originally posted by Rip Chudd

Johnson is another tough one for me. If it's the Johnson that just fought Froch then i'd pick Joe. But if it was the Johnson that was looking to fight Joe and Joe didn't even want to mention his name then I'd go with Glen. Not saying Joe was scared of Glen but like a prime Roy and Hopkins I don't think Calz wanted any part of that.

I don't think any version of Glen beats Joe. Was Joe reticent to fight him, yeah I'd say that, but Glen has always been a tough, high risk low reward kind of fight, and regardless of Joe's reticence that doesn't mean that he wouldn't have found a way to win had the fight been made. And Glen never really possessed the type of intangibles that might have made this fight a toss up. Even in his younger days he was a relatively slow, straight-forward and orthodox fighter with plodding foot movement. Would Joe have some hairy moments? Sure. Would he have won the fight? Hell yes.

**mannyman** · 06-11-2011, 05:41 AM

Originally posted by slimshandy69

Joe always managed to find a win regardless, but if he fought 6 top fighters home and away like froch, would he have walked away with his 0 record still in tact?

Discuss.

Froch has has been awesome in his past 6 fights demonstrating heart, chin and stamina. I think he's gained a lot of respect in the Boxing community as he was always written of as one dimensional - he's proved everybody wrong.

TBH though I think Calzaghe walks beats all Frochs past 6 with ease.

if calzaghe took frochs route, would he have a loss??