Who is Pacquiao's next opponent if not Mayweather?

[tomhawq]

silly thread as usual from this ts.

[Roja's480]

so let me get this straight everyone is ****ting on may for fighting a green ww in victor ortiz, but there fine with pac vs bradley at ww

[Canelo Phresh]

cintron or berto.

[ThePrince]

so let me get this straight everyone is ****ting on may for fighting a green ww in victor ortiz, but there fine with pac vs bradley at ww

Have people been been ****ting on the matchup or just saying that Ortiz was grossly overrated after the Berto win after being a middle of the pack JWW? Both Bradley and Ortiz were JWWs as recently as early this year, Bradley was the #1 guy after beating the likes of Alexander, Peterson, Holt; while Vic was only ranked #7 after getting his **** pushed in by Madiana and looking terrible in a draw against Peterson.

Both guys beat undefeated welterweights, Ortiz with Berto of course and Bradley with Abregu (29-0). If Bradley takes another WW tuneup, say against a Senchenko or Zavec and takes their belt, a fight with Manny would only make sense.

Plain and simple, Tim Bradley is a much better fighter than Victor Ortiz.

[JDezi4]

He should RETIRE...

[Roja's480]

Have people been been ****ting on the matchup or just saying that Ortiz was grossly overrated after the Berto win after being a middle of the pack JWW? Both Bradley and Ortiz were JWWs as recently as early this year, Bradley was the #1 guy after beating the likes of Alexander, Peterson, Holt; while Vic was only ranked #7 after getting his **** pushed in by Madiana and looking terrible in a draw against Peterson.

Both guys beat undefeated welterweights, Ortiz with Berto of course and Bradley with Abregu (29-0). If Bradley takes another WW tuneup, say against a Senchenko or Zavec and takes their belt, a fight with Manny would only make sense.

Plain and simple, Tim Bradley is a much better fighter than Victor Ortiz.

but what if he doesnt take another fight and goes straight to pac, dont get me wrong i would love to see them fight now, just like i didnt mind when may picked ortiz why because i would like the young guys getting a chance to fight the best, thats how they end up becoming known and its a great learning experience and if they lose i dont think it will hurt there carrers

[ThePrince]

but what if he doesnt take another fight and goes straight to pac, dont get me wrong i would love to see them fight now, just like i didnt mind when may picked ortiz why because i would like the young guys getting a chance to fight the best, thats how they end up becoming known and its a great learning experience and if they lose i dont think it will hurt there carrers

If Pac-Bradley happens, it'll be in the spring. Don't see Tim being inactive for a year and 1/2. When Top Rank signs him it will be a big deal and he'll probably get a fight on SHOWTIME or CBS (fingers crossed) and the hype machine will be in full swing.

But like I said earlier in this thread, JMM represents the last of the guaranteed big money fights with established fighters. Floyd and Manny have no choice but to go younger/no name commodity. It's great for the sport because win or lose, those guys become household names. If they win, they they become the standard bearers of the sport.

Ortiz, Bradley, Khan, and Canelo will all get their shot at Pac or Floyd (if he doesn't 'retire' again) in the next 2 years.

[Eastbay Giant]

tim bradley >>>>>>>>>>> victor ortiz, ask lamont peterson... or any rating body or fan when they were both jwws just last year.

jmm is the last of the big money fights for either pac or floyd outside of each other. they have no choice but to go younger, untested on ppv. floyd is starting with ortiz, pac will follow with tim. bradley, khan, canelo will be fighting one or both in the next 2 years until retirement.

Whoever can succesfully beat either floyd or manny takes the mantle a the top guy and cash cow in the sport like floyd and manny did with oscar and the cycle repeats.

If Manny Pacquiao goes directly into fight negotiations and signs to fight Tim Bradley after Marquez, then it will support those who say he is ducking Floyd. All Floyd has done by choosing Ortiz, is removing the next best fighter that stands between he and Manny at WW. It is the same reason why he fought Mosley when he did last year. It's irrelevant whether you think Bradley is better, because a Floyd win and a Manny win leaves them @ 1 & 2 in the division. Manny, Arum, & Co have no other credible options than Floyd, because it's going on two years of cherry picking.

Your proving my point to be correct in theory, because instead of pushing for the fight with Floyd, your pushing it aside to justify a fight with Bradley. Like I said Bradley is not Mayweather, and everyone wants Mayweather next...including Mayweather.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Arum will try to make Pac-Bradley before the fight JMM-Pac fight is even over.

If not Bradley then it will be Cintron.

[ThePrince]

If Manny Pacquiao goes directly into fight negotiations and signs to fight Tim Bradley after Marquez, then it will support those who say he is ducking Floyd. All Floyd has done by choosing Ortiz, is removing the next best fighter that stands between he and Manny at WW. It is the same reason why he fought Mosley when he did last year. It's irrelevant whether you think Bradley is better, because a Floyd win and a Manny win leaves them @ 1 & 2 in the division. Manny, Arum, & Co have no other credible options than Floyd, because it's going on two years of cherry picking.

Stop it

You know as well as I do that Floyd had a year+ to make the fight with Manny but was on 'vacation' until the JMM fight was finalized. As soon as the Ortiz sparring match is over with I guarantee you that we'll be hearing a lot about trials and maybe even taxes that for some reason didn't seem to affect the Ortiz fight.

Your proving my point to be correct in theory, because instead of pushing for the fight with Floyd, your pushing it aside to justify a fight with Bradley. Like I said Bradley is not Mayweather, and everyone wants Mayweather next...including Mayweather.

I've pushed for the Mayweather fight, even posted Pacquiao saying he wants the fight after the Ortiz exhibition. Floyd fans only wanted to talk about PEDs.

Where did Floyd say he wants Manny next? All he's said on the issue is he wouldn't get any credit for beating him so why bother. Floyd Sr says '**** that'