Can Mayweather KO/TKO Ortiz?

[Fox McCloud]

Can he? Yes, and that's exactly what he'll do...stop him. Floyd is a different animal when faced against southpaws, Ortiz better prepare.

To be fair, half of the six fights where I think he was met with significant adversity against southpaws. The two that weren't were the decision wins against Castillo in the first fight, De La Hoya, and Mosley. The three southpaws that have given Jr. some problems have been Reggie Sanders, DeMarcus Corley, and Zab Judah. In FMJ's second fight against Sanders, I thought Floyd looked pretty poor, and really didn't make a significant imprint on any of the the rounds. To be honest, if those performances came from two unknown fighters, I think there would have been a possibility of Sanders getting a draw or even a decision win out of it. The adversity he met against Corley and Judah is well-known, getting caught with a big overhand right hook (the description of that punch sounds really weird... because it came from a weird angle, and is rarely thrown by anyone who gets on television... obviously the right punch at the right time in that fight though obviously) by Corley, and getting blasted by a straight left from Judah through his guard. To be honest, I've always thought that he just looked a little more uncomfortable and little less dynamic against southpaws. Plus, his most devastating weapon as a boxer is his bulletproof defense, which is significantly less effective against southpaws due to the difference in angle that their punches come from, which will be magnified against Manny, because he throws punches from the southpaw stance in angles that are even considered unorthodox for a southpaw.

[Phil Ivey]

To be fair, half of the six fights where I think he was met with significant adversity against southpaws. The two that weren't were the decision wins against Castillo in the first fight, De La Hoya, and Mosley. The three southpaws that have given Jr. some problems have been Reggie Sanders, DeMarcus Corley, and Zab Judah. In FMJ's second fight against Sanders, I thought Floyd looked pretty poor, and really didn't make a significant imprint on any of the the rounds. To be honest, if those performances came from two unknown fighters, I think there would have been a possibility of Sanders getting a draw or even a decision win out of it. The adversity he met against Corley and Judah is well-known, getting caught with a big overhand right hook (the description of that punch sounds really weird... because it came from a weird angle, and is rarely thrown by anyone who gets on television... obviously the right punch at the right time in that fight though obviously) by Corley, and getting blasted by a straight left from Judah through his guard. To be honest, I've always thought that he just looked a little more uncomfortable and little less dynamic against southpaws. Plus, his most devastating weapon as a boxer is his bulletproof defense, which is significantly less effective against southpaws due to the difference in angle that their punches come from, which will be magnified against Manny, because he throws punches from the southpaw stance in angles that are even considered unorthodox for a southpaw.

Significant adversity is a vast exaggeration, yes he got caught and had some trouble early on but he dismantled both later on, Zab even resorted to blatant low blows because of it. He will have problems early on but its just a matter of time before he adjusts.

[gamefrk]

floyd knocks ortiz out in the later rounds, unless his corner throws in the towel

[Las Vegas,]

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Family matters. I remember watching that show as a kid. It was hilarious.

[Fox McCloud]

Significant adversity is a vast exaggeration, yes he got caught and had some trouble early on but he dismantled both later on, Zab even resorted to blatant low blows because of it. He will have problems early on but its just a matter of time before he adjusts.

I'll meet you halfway and call it a slight exaggeration. I probably should have used the phrase "noticeable adversity" instead of "significant adversity." You are right that he definitely recovered from both times being hurt and took his opponent apart after keeping them from capitalizing on initially hurting him, but there is no doubt that he was hurt, and things can happen when a boxer is stunned, such as a follow up punch hurting him to the point that he cannot continue the fight and would lose by some sort of stoppage.

Plus, each fight is different. I definitely am not confident or even thinking that a Ortiz stoppage win is probable, in fact, I'd say the chances of it happening are pretty slim. However, if Ortiz does end up hurting Mayweather Jr. (especially early), it will be another test of Floyd's skills to see if they can help him survive long enough to recover. Just because he survived the follow-up onslaughts of Judah (who is notorious for being a poor finisher when he hurts someone) and Corley (he hurt Cotto but couldn't finish him off, so he is obviously not the best finisher in the world either), does not guarantee that he will survive a follow-up barrage of punches from Ortiz if he gets hurt.

[Cassius Liston]

I know it sounds ridiculous but I think its going to be a devastating knockout similar to him taking out Ricky Hatton... Ortiz does like to fight on the outside a bit... but he'll so realize that he has to just roll the dice and he'll get caught too many times taking too many risks or he'll just get gun shy like Mosley

[OhMane24]

I definitely can see Floyd Knocking Ortiz out in the later rounds, but not Ortiz's corner throwing in the towel or a ref stoppage. I don't think Floyd takes the risk and goes for the knock out, he'll dictate the fight for all twelve rounds and cruise to a decision.Even if Ortiz is able to get to inside,Floyd defense and inside fighting is too superior for Ortiz. Even when guys are hurt,Floyd doesn't try to finish them off, now if this was Pretty Boy Floyd from mid-90's before the hand issues, then Ortiz would be KO'd for sure.

[Emphasis]

To be fair, half of the six fights where I think he was met with significant adversity against southpaws. The two that weren't were the decision wins against Castillo in the first fight, De La Hoya, and Mosley. The three southpaws that have given Jr. some problems have been Reggie Sanders, DeMarcus Corley, and Zab Judah. In FMJ's second fight against Sanders, I thought Floyd looked pretty poor, and really didn't make a significant imprint on any of the the rounds. To be honest, if those performances came from two unknown fighters, I think there would have been a possibility of Sanders getting a draw or even a decision win out of it. The adversity he met against Corley and Judah is well-known, getting caught with a big overhand right hook (the description of that punch sounds really weird... because it came from a weird angle, and is rarely thrown by anyone who gets on television... obviously the right punch at the right time in that fight though obviously) by Corley, and getting blasted by a straight left from Judah through his guard. To be honest, I've always thought that he just looked a little more uncomfortable and little less dynamic against southpaws. Plus, his most devastating weapon as a boxer is his bulletproof defense, which is significantly less effective against southpaws due to the difference in angle that their punches come from, which will be magnified against Manny, because he throws punches from the southpaw stance in angles that are even considered unorthodox for a southpaw.

True he usually alters his defense against a southpaw, which different people make out to be either a disadvantage or an advantage.

On the flip-side, Floyd tends to throw many more right hands against a southpaw, both to the body and head, than against orthodox fighters. And I feel Ortiz is most vulnerable to a quick straight right.

The thing I like about this fight though; is that Ortiz is a young hungry champion, who lately seems to have tremendous determination in his heart. He isn't exactly slow, and coupled with his youth I see Ortiz troubling Floyd much more than his other recent opponents.

[Doctor_Tenma]

To be fair, half of the six fights where I think he was met with significant adversity against southpaws. The two that weren't were the decision wins against Castillo in the first fight, De La Hoya, and Mosley. The three southpaws that have given Jr. some problems have been Reggie Sanders, DeMarcus Corley, and Zab Judah. In FMJ's second fight against Sanders, I thought Floyd looked pretty poor, and really didn't make a significant imprint on any of the the rounds. To be honest, if those performances came from two unknown fighters, I think there would have been a possibility of Sanders getting a draw or even a decision win out of it. The adversity he met against Corley and Judah is well-known, getting caught with a big overhand right hook (the description of that punch sounds really weird... because it came from a weird angle, and is rarely thrown by anyone who gets on television... obviously the right punch at the right time in that fight though obviously) by Corley, and getting blasted by a straight left from Judah through his guard. To be honest, I've always thought that he just looked a little more uncomfortable and little less dynamic against southpaws. Plus, his most devastating weapon as a boxer is his bulletproof defense, which is significantly less effective against southpaws due to the difference in angle that their punches come from, which will be magnified against Manny, because he throws punches from the southpaw stance in angles that are even considered unorthodox for a southpaw.

That's a stretch man, significantly less? Alot of the time it's because he would go back to using the shoulder roll defense, that's more due to muscle memory because Floyd is accustomed to that style. Out of all the southpaws Mayweather has faced, none have Ortiz's right hook, so I'm sure Floyd will be disciplined enough to keep a high guard, as the shoulder roll is susceptible to right hooks over the top. There was an instance where Corley landed 3 right hooks over the top, one after another and Floyd laughed it off.

Again he'll use the high guard, apply alot of pressure to Ortiz, have Ortiz going backwards. He's very effective in using that style, and we'll see if Ortiz can penetrate through that defense. As for the Sanders fight, I don't remember that fight, I'll have to see it again.

[Jermaine83]

Family matters. I remember watching that show as a kid. It was hilarious.

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