Why is Bob Arum so ******?

[The Big Dunn]

Because evidently Floyd's business team is pretty good.

Arum doesn't really care I imagine Pac is still putting millions and millions in his pocket.

True. Bob puts Manny in with big bums because most pac fans want to see him beat people up. The show is manny, not necessarily boxing.

Floyd's team puts him in with credible challengers because most floyd fans want to see floyd's skill set and the haters want to see him get his a$$ kicked. Boxing is the show, not necessarily floyd.

[JoeDaWg]

He seems to get outsmarted by Mayweather's team nearly every time and this is coming from a huge Pacquiao fan.


Pacquiao vs Hatton - Very good fight, Mayweather announces fight vs Marquez (bigger - at the time) the day before the fight.

Pacquiao vs Clottey announced, Mayweather announces fight vs Mosley shortly after, much bigger fight (even though I believe Clottey to have been the better fighter).

Pacquiao vs Marquez announced, Mayweather yet again steps in and announces a fight vs a guy coming off another huge win in an exciting fight just months earlier BEFORE Pacquiao vs Marquez so he gets even more of their attention. Further still he puts it on Sept 17th, why the **** didn't Arum use that date? Tell Marquez to screw his tune up or push it forward is what he should have done.

Basically Floyd is fighting guys coming off big wins with catches yet he's still hyping the fans up, Marquez - old lightweight but coming off TKO win over Diaz in exciting fight. Mosley - old welterweight with nearly 2 year lay off but coming in off TKO win over Margarito in a good fight. Ortiz - not old, not too small but he's not as good as hyped up right now (only drew with Peterson last year, lost to Maidana in 2009) yet again the fans are buying into it from the exciting fight with Berto.

True but some of those moves u mentioned were out of bobs control. Floyd was retired when pac signed to fight hatton, how were they supposed to know floyd would try to steal some shine the night before the fight.

Mosley was already signed to fight berto when pac signed to fight clottey. If not for the earth quake who knows what would have happened. The perfect situation basically fell into floyds lap.

Anyway u slice it floyd isn't active so he can pick and choose the best possible spots to come back and make some money. Pac being an active fighter is always gonna have less options because he's working with a set time frame.

And bob doesn't give a **** about who floyd fights or what those fights do. Bob is a business man, pure and simple. If it doesn't have anything to do with his check book, he doesn't have anything to do with it.

[BostonGuy]

I think Arum and Pacquaio sign the fights too early. I mean, Pac's just off the Mosley win and already he's signed to face JMM in November. Why not schedule a date against a TBA and wait several months for a viable opponent to emerge? It seems like they jump while they could wait a month or two, or three to let some young hot fighter prove themself...

[JoeDaWg]

True. Bob puts Manny in with big bums because most pac fans want to see him beat people up. The show is manny, not necessarily boxing.

Floyd's team puts him in with credible challengers because most floyd fans want to see floyd's skill set and the haters want to see him get his a$$ kicked. Boxing is the show, not necessarily floyd.

This fight is better then floyds last two put together. He deserves mad props for making it but lets not just jump off the deep end. If he made fights like this more often I would be right there with u. But his "career" at 147 has been just as much about who he ducked as who he has fought. One could make an argument that this is the best fight he's EVER made at 147.

[Blubba]

True but some of those moves u mentioned were out of bobs control. Floyd was retired when pac signed to fight hatton, how were they supposed to know floyd would try to steal some shine the night before the fight.

Mosley was already signed to fight berto when pac signed to fight clottey. If not for the earth quake who knows what would have happened. The perfect situation basically fell into floyds lap.

Anyway u slice it floyd isn't active so he can pick and choose the best possible spots to come back and make some money. Pac being an active fighter is always gonna have less options because he's working with a set time frame.

And bob doesn't give a **** about who floyd fights or what those fights do. Bob is a business man, pure and simple. If it doesn't have anything to do with his check book, he doesn't have anything to do with it.

very gud post.

[-Kev-]

I agree with OP for the most part. I thought Pacquiao-Hatton was the better match up than Mayweather-Marquez. But yeah, Mayweather-Marquez did 1.1Mill while Pacquiao-Hatton did 800k, so it was "bigger", but I wouldn't call it the better match up.

I think Arum and Pacquaio sign the fights too early. I mean, Pac's just off the Mosley win and already he's signed to face JMM in November. Why not schedule a date against a TBA and wait several months for a viable opponent to emerge? It seems like they jump while they could wait a month or two, or three to let some young hot fighter prove themself...

Before the Clottey fight was over, Margarito was already going around saying he's fighting Pacquiao in November, that Arum "promised him". After the Margarito fight, the Mosley fight was quickly signed. Before the Mosley fight was ended, there was already talks about Marquez-Pacquiao III.

[BIGBOXINGFAN]

Whats funny is now Floyd Mayweather has more options than Pacquiao.

Mayweather vs Alvarez 147-154 (goldenboy fighter)
Mayweather vs Khan 147 (goldenboy fighter)
Mayweather vs Maidana 147 (goldenboy fighter)
Mayweather vs Bradley 147 (if he doesn't sign with top rank)
Mayweather vs Martinez 154 ( i feel that mayweather would fight but pacquiao won't)

Pacquiao vs Bradley 147 (if bradley doesn't sign with golden boy)
Pacquiao vs Judah 144 (if judah beats khan)
Pacquiao vs Cintron 147 (just threw up in my mouth)

Pacquiao can't fight chavez jr or Khan because of Roach
Also Pacquiao vs Cotto 2 is an option but Cotto must beat Chavez jr and Margarito

[Uturn]

Mayweather just seems that little smarter with his business moves. Mosley was a credible opponent when Floyd fought him due to his win over Margarito, and now Ortiz is lined up who is recognized as a legit fighter after beating Berto. Seems like Mayweather is getting the more meaningful *wins on his record...

[BostonGuy]

I agree with OP for the most part. I thought Pacquiao-Hatton was the better match up than Mayweather-Marquez. But yeah, Mayweather-Marquez did 1.1Mill while Pacquiao-Hatton did 800k, so it was "bigger", but I wouldn't call it the better match up.




Before the Clottey fight was over, Margarito was already going around saying he's fighting Pacquiao in November, that Arum "promised him". After the Margarito fight, the Mosley fight was quickly signed. Before the Mosley fight was ended, there was already talks about Marquez-Pacquiao III.

That's exactly what I mean. Arum is way too quick to lock-in Pacquaio's next opponent when it might be beneficial to wait around awhile to get an fighter who's coming off a big win and is riding a wave of popularity (at the moment)...

[Brockton Lip]

True but some of those moves u mentioned were out of bobs control. Floyd was retired when pac signed to fight hatton, how were they supposed to know floyd would try to steal some shine the night before the fight.

Mosley was already signed to fight berto when pac signed to fight clottey. If not for the earth quake who knows what would have happened. The perfect situation basically fell into floyds lap.

Anyway u slice it floyd isn't active so he can pick and choose the best possible spots to come back and make some money. Pac being an active fighter is always gonna have less options because he's working with a set time frame.

And bob doesn't give a **** about who floyd fights or what those fights do. Bob is a business man, pure and simple. If it doesn't have anything to do with his check book, he doesn't have anything to do with it.

I agree with this. Marquez is a better tuneup, stylistically, to help Pac prepare for Mayweather than Ortiz would've been anyway. It makes sense for pretty much everyone.