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  • letsgobrady
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    #441
    Originally posted by mikemurni
    He is not in the level of Marg, Clottey yet. Its too soon, and he can be better if he is not rushed. Forget about Pac, Cotto, and Floyd, he is never goin to reach that level..
    ortiz beat berto who was the wbc champ and that is much better than clottey beating zab for a vacant tittle and every tittle cotto had won at ww was a vacant tittle and margarito's only great accomplishment seems to be some what tainted

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    • mikemurni
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      #442
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      What is Clottey level? Finding way to lose to journeymen? Being a loser? He's on Clottey level and beyond it. Because, Ortiz actually win important fights.

      And, he's above this version of Marg. What is this version of Marg level?

      Stop living in yesteryear man.
      No being competitive against elite fighters. At least he is not being KO'd against average fighters.

      Marg will beat him now, simply because Marg has the chin, the length, and the WW punch to KO Ortiz.. If Maidana can knock him out, what more Marg..

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      • Paposkiviri
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        #443
        Clearly this an easy win for Ortiz. His defense is phemomenal and he'll pick Floyd apart. 2nd round knockout for Ortiz.

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        • new2edmonton
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          #444
          Originally posted by wacksauce
          none of these guys would get knocked out by Marcos Friggin Maidana thats for sure. look it up, i know you only watch boxing once every 16 months... so here's your chance to learn.

          Ortiz's biggest fights:
          Marcos Maidana - TKO LOSS!!!!!!
          Lamont Peterson - DRAW!!!!!!
          Andre Berto - Win but Knocked down twice!!!!!)

          Damn SMH, maytards wet their panties for THIS???
          Clottey low activity = easy fight

          Margs weight drained, no head movement = easy fight

          mosley coming of a beating, also minimum head movement = easy fight

          Marquez slick guy but old and doesnt perform well with extra weight = ?

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          • P.K
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            #445
            Originally posted by GRUSTLER
            You are talking about cherry picking. How can you say Floyd is cherry picking? Ortiz is a legit, #3 ranked WW champ, who just won his last fight. How is that cherry picking? Do you consider what Pac did or is doing as cherry picking? Simple question.
            Again I am not talking about Pac. Fool.

            If your simple mind thinks that because a fighter is coming off a win is not cherry picking, then you are ******, more than I suspected.

            There are some wins that expose fighters, or some wins that make them look good, but as a TRUE boxing fan, we know what the deal is.

            There are some fans of fighters who will argue all night long for their man, and you are one of them. You're not a typical bad spealling, crap typing *****, but you are one, no matter how hard you try to suggest you are not.

            I am smarter than you, and always will be, and will always see through you.

            Damn *****.

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            • THE REED
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              #446
              17 months inactivity... at 34 1/2 years old...

              Floyds skills are years beyond Ortiz... but he's not invincible, he's not unbeatable.

              He just A. Hasn't fought anyone who can beat him yet, and B. Got to the age where ring wear has effected him yet..

              But, this is the time in a fighters life (generally) where they start to lose a step, they start to see that split second timing go away a bit, the legs slow down a bit.. the reaction time isn't quite the same as it used to be.

              Ortiz, no SUPERIOR boxer to Floyd, is still a young, prime, BIG (161lbs on FN) and Southpaw, coming off the best win of his career.

              This will not be a walk in the park.

              I favor Floyd, as anyone SHOULD favor Floyd... but this isn't easy.

              Berto hit Ortiz with HUGE MONSTER shots, and it still did not deter him from attacking.

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              • mikemurni
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                #447
                Originally posted by letsgobrady
                ortiz beat berto who was the wbc champ and that is much better than clottey beating zab for a vacant tittle and every tittle cotto had won at ww was a vacant tittle and margarito's only great accomplishment seems to be some what tainted
                Zab has been there against Cotto, Floyd, etc.. Who has Berto fought. The guy was a paper champ.. He cruised through the rankings because fighters above him were either losing, moving up in weight, or retiring..

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                • jrosales13
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                  #448
                  Originally posted by mikemurni
                  No being competitive against elite fighters. At least he is not being KO'd against average fighters.

                  Marg will beat him now, simply because Marg has the chin, the length, and the WW punch to KO Ortiz.. If Maidana can knock him out, what more Marg..
                  When were they competitive against good fighters? Years ago. You still looking at Marg as he is the same fighter from years ago. He's not. Don't you understand that? Is IMDAZED about your brain? Do you have one? For the last time bro stop living in yesteryear.

                  That's like saying if Prescott could KO Khan in a lower weight-class what more can so an so do at JWW? You see how ****** that sounds? Especially since Khan is arguably the best JWW right now?

                  Lets use logic and sense here man.

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                  • GRUSTLER
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                    #449
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    I just don't like it when Johnny Comelately fans like yourself who don't know enough about the sport agree with me. Is not just you it's everyone of these posters who make idiotic posts and points. That is all, I'm just going to stop here and not respond to you anymore on this thread. I don't want to piss Reed off.
                    So according to you. Since I am agreeing with you, that makes what you said not true? Talk about idiotic posters. You basically downplayed your own boxing knowledge because someone you don't think highly of agreed with you? If anything that should make you feel like you're making a dent on this site considering you feel like I don't know anything. You crapped on your own credibility for what? If you feel like you know so much, then there shouldn't be a question if you're making sense or not. You need to step it up man and stop being so salty. Grown ups, do grown up things, like man up and give props when it is due. I didn't even ask you to say or do nothing. If anything I was cosigning you. Wow man..... You have some real personal issues going on regarding me. Ok, so let me be the bigger man once more and just let you be, so you can feel better about yourself since I make you feel insecure. Take care and all the best to you.
                    Last edited by GRUSTLER; 06-07-2011, 02:49 PM.

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                    • THE REED
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                      #450
                      Put Berto on the undercard against Mosley.

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