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  • IMDAZED
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    #341
    Originally posted by ThePrince
    So you think Floyd didn't see the Maidana fight, or the Peterson fight, we know he was ringside when Ortiz hit the deck several times against Berto.

    Stop it.
    Only thing that matters is if the PPV is a "massive success", right Princess?

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    • mr_kamado10
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      #342
      Originally posted by GRUSTLER
      NO WAY...... Cotto at 145 coming off of a hard fought fight with Clottey? Clottey who lost to Cotto prior? Margarito who was suspended for trying to cheat and unranked in the 154 division but still fought for a vacant title at a catchweight? Victor Ortiz beats and unbeaten, prime champion at 147 in a dominate fashion. no way dude, sorry but you are hallucinating or just plain hating. Victor Ortiz is ranked #3 in the WW division. where was Clottey and Cotto when Pac fought them? Margarito wasn't even ranked in his own division. Think Cotto was a great fight for Pac at 145? Think again. Better yet. Just ask Pac why he fought Cotto instead of shane after Margarito...




      Pac is the real deal cherry picker.

      Ortiz and Berto are both overhype and bum fighters.....and floyd will be fighting Ortiz who won on another overhype fighter in Berto...

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      • mikemurni
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        #343
        Originally posted by GRUSTLER
        If Ortiz is such a left over coming off of a dominate performance like that against Berto in a new division for him then what would you call Pac's opponents after 2008? Pac's opponents looked like real left overs. Ortiz looked like a hungry, primed champion. Big difference.
        Cotto,Hatton, and Oscar are all 50/50 fights going in.. You cannot say the same with Ortiz-Floyd and JMM-Floyd. You have to be objective. If you can criticize Clottey, Marg, and Mosley then you better goddamn criticize this fight otherwise you are just nuthugging..

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          #344
          Originally posted by mr_kamado10
          this is scam fight...Floyd should have chosen either Cotto and Martinez....

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            #345
            Originally posted by wacksauce
            damn do you even watch boxing? you know Ortiz got TKO'd by Maidana right?? so is floyd just trying to "outdo" Maidana? how am i supposed to be hyped up about a dude that got TKO'd by Maidana? then fought to a draw against Lamont? then got knocked down twice by Berto? damn if you're wetting your panties becuase floyd is FINALLY fighting someone who is licensed to box then fine... but don't pretend like this is a good fight.. most people know that Ortiz is a VERY flawed fighter... good kid... but not ready.

            you can quote manny all you want... it dont make a difference.. ask manny about ANY fighter including Floyd, and he won't be talking bad about them.
            Ok, so how did Victor Ortiz look in his last fight compared to Manny's opponents in their last fights? I'll wait.

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              #346
              Originally posted by mikemurni
              Cotto,Hatton, and Oscar are all 50/50 fights going in.. You cannot say the same with Ortiz-Floyd and JMM-Floyd. You have to be objective. If you can criticize Clottey, Marg, and Mosley then you better goddamn criticize this fight otherwise you are just nuthugging..

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              • lfc19titles
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                #347
                Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                Ok, so how did Victor Ortiz look in his last fight compared to Manny's opponents in their last fights? I'll wait.
                he fought an average fighter, got dropped but still won

                he got his ass whooped by a decent fighter in maidana and was tk0d, also looked awful vs peterson and almost lost, escaped with a draw

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                • mikemurni
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                  #348
                  Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                  Ok, so how did Victor Ortiz look in his last fight compared to Manny's opponents in their last fights? I'll wait.
                  Marg, and Cotto looked great because they fought tune-up fights before they fought Manny.. Cotto looked great against Jennings, and Marg against Martinez in Mexico.. Whats your point.. Doesnt make Ortiz better than this 2 fighters..

                  And at least both fighters didnt get knockdown in their previous fight

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                  • GRUSTLER
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                    #349
                    Originally posted by mikemurni
                    Cotto,Hatton, and Oscar are all 50/50 fights going in.. You cannot say the same with Ortiz-Floyd and JMM-Floyd. You have to be objective. If you can criticize Clottey, Marg, and Mosley then you better goddamn criticize this fight otherwise you are just nuthugging..
                    MOSTLY EVERYONE with exception to me wanting to see a competitive fight had Pac beating Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito and Mosley rather easily. I knew Floyd would beat JMM and I'm picking Floyd to win against Ortiz but both them guys were and are coming off of dominate wins. Pac ain't done that in a loooooonnnng time. With exception to Hatton over Malignaggi.

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                    • ThePrince
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                      #350
                      Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                      If Ortiz is such a left over coming off of a dominate performance like that against Berto in a new division for him then what would you call Pac's opponents after 2008? Pac's opponents looked like real left overs. Ortiz looked like a hungry, primed champion. Big difference.




                      Who did Berto beat again? Freddy Hernandez?



                      If Pacquiao's opponents were leftovers coming off losses/draws then so is Ortiz. Can't have it both ways.

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