Dirrell made Froch look like a mediocre to average fighter!!!

[mcdoodledoo]

Dirrell in that fight laid the basic groundwork for beating Froch. The problem was he didn't do it with enough conviction, which is why he lost. If Ward decides to follow what Dirrell did, he won't have the same problem.

It does look like Froch has improved in respects of following game plans and using his own height, though not enough to save him from Ward I don't think. He just doesn't have enough athletic gifts. I expect a close-ish fight, not a whitewash for Ward. But Froch does surprise me, and I do want him to win as I do like him, I just don't see it happening.

But well done on watching that fight again TS, I applaud you because I don't think I could watch that stinker of a fight again.

[Joe2608]

The only thing that matters when scoring a round are clean,scoring punches.It doesn't matter whether a fighter is running around the ring like a spastic,or if he has his arse planted on the ropes for an entire fight - if he's scoring punches,that's all that matters.


When one boxer is outlanding another by such an obvious and clear margin,the rounds are neither close nor particularly difficult to score.The only solid blows Froch was able to consistently land throughout the entire fight were rabbit punches.

What you described is more Olympic rules than Professional rules. It's not just about hitting your opponent with clean shots, along with clean punching a lot of judges score rounds based on ring generalship and activity. These can be a major influence on how a judge scores a round in the professional ranks especially if it's a close round.

If you're on the ropes for an entire fight you're going to find it hard to get a decision regardless of whether you're scoring punches or not. Running around the ring is more acceptable there's no rules on whether you can run or not but obviously some judges may frown apon it or get swayed by the crowd getting pissed off due to the lack of action even though they shouldn't.

[Sparked_1985]

What your described is more Olympic rules than Professional rules. It's not just about hitting your opponent with clean shots, along with clean punching a lot of judges score rounds based on ring generalship and activity. These can be a major influence on how a judge scores a round in the professional ranks especially if it's a close round.

I agree.

Honestly, If one guy lands a solid right hand, pitty-pats and runs and refuses to engage. And the other guy chases him down, huffs and puffs but is largely unsuccessful but makes the other fighter behave negatively. I'm giving the huffer and puffer the round. No second thought, whatsoever.

And there were plenty of rounds like that in the Froch/Dirrell fight. For me, if you are out-of-punching range and moving laterally for 30 seconds without doing anything, and the other guy is showing aggressive intent - for all intents and purposes that guy with the intent has to be winning.

[Joe2608]

I agree.

Honestly, If one guy lands a solid right hand, pitty-pats and runs and refuses to engage. And the other guy chases him down, huffs and puffs but is largely unsuccessful but makes the other fighter behave negatively. I'm giving the huffer and puffer the round. No second thought, whatsoever.

And there were plenty of rounds like that in the Froch/Dirrell fight. For me, if you are out-of-punching range and moving laterally for 30 seconds without doing anything, and the other guy is showing aggressive intent - for all intents and purposes that guy with the intent has to be winning.

Exactly, that's not to mention that the crowd will cheer every punch the chaser is throwing which would make it seem like he's winning even more. Judges shouldn't be swayed by the crowd but it happens.

[shade darkar]

people forget that froch landed about 3 punches all night and he was hurt at one point.

[Joe2608]

people forget that froch landed about 3 punches all night and he was hurt at one point.

[southpoor]

Froch has average (for a world class fighter) boxing ability, a decent jab and an unorthodox style. he does however have amazing endurance, a great chin and decent power. If you have a highly technical fighter to put against him of course he is going to look average in terms of skills, that's because he is.

[Weebler I]

lol, you can make anyone look average if all you do is run away from their punches, refuse to engage and dive on the floor. The Ref should've taken action.

Dirrell acted like a lowlife coward in the Super 6 and doesn't deserve to become a World Champion.

[Sparked_1985]

lol, you can make anyone look average if all you do is run away from their punches, refuse to engage and dive on the floor. The Ref should've taken action.

Dirrell acted like a lowlife coward in the Super 6 and doesn't deserve to become a World Champion.

He didn't cover himself in glory, that's for sure.

Ward can beat Froch properly. He's got the skill but he's also a tough man. It annoys me that people point to the Dirrell fight like that was a good performance and worthy of ripping a title away from the Champion. No sir.

Dirrell might have all the ability in the world but behaved like that against Froch, and he basically swallowed it against Abraham.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

A robbery is when one guy dominates a fight and doesnt get a decision.

Dirrell didnt dominate *****. He may have stole the decision on another day at another venue. But it wasnt a robbery at all.