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  • #41
    Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
    According to the Showtime/CBS model, anything less than 1.5m was considered a failure.
    1.3 million PPV buys is considered a failure, huh? What would you call this then?
    Schaefer calling for four million PPV buys!

    Most astute boxing writers think the Shane Mosley-Floyd Mayweather fight will do huge numbers on pay-per-view. Numbers in excess of 1.5 million PPV buys would be deemed a success. According to Yahoo! Sports' Kevin Iole, Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer is dreaming big. He says according to many of their projections, four million is a possibility.

    Before you scoff, how many people thought Mayweather's fight against Juan Manuel Marquez would do one million? Now four million is an incredible number, but with the power of Mayweather's "Money" persona, new marketing techniques, increased media exposure and unique promotions like the one with DeWalt tools, boxing is breaking barriers when it comes to getting people fired up about it mega-fights.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/box/blog/box...urn=box-237601


    For a fight that was universally panned, an 8-1 betting mismatch, against a guy coming off a lopsided loss and a lackluster draw, I'd say 1.3 mil is pretty damn good. If that's the tally for a boycotted garbage fight, just imagine what a popular fight like Pac-JMM would do with the same promotional model (tweaked a bit for more regular time slots for the Fight Camp on CBS, 9AM on the west coast isn't exactly ideal and more commercials wouldn't hurt). 1.5 million buys isn't at all farfetched IMO.

    Then again, it's Ben Thompson from Fight Hype with the usual unnamed 'sources' feeding him info, so take that with a grain of salt.

    If true, that means Pac and Cotto have tallied about 1.6 million PPV buys this year since the move to SHOWTIME, with Cotto's 250K buys at least doubling the combined buys for all HBO PPVs this year. You think maybe they're regretting turning Cotto-Martirosyan?

    Top Rank would be foolish to go back to HBO. Just wish they would use the increased exposure to push other fighters as well. Brandon Rios became a star after he stole the show on the Pacquiao-Margarito 24/7 and Khan has gotten some air time on the program as well.

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    • #42
      bumping this up for more ***** damage

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      • #43
        i thought the point of going to cbs/showtime was cause it would sell " 2 million plus ppv's"-bob arum...

        cbs has zero impact, it was obvious due to their really poor ratings.. all this fight did was embarrass boxing

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        • #44
          Originally posted by eklok View Post
          bumping this up for more ***** damage
          you realize this is the only site that uses "*******s" , "*****s"... use those words in a bar and fans of both fighters will laugh in your face... idiots

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          • #45
            Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
            According to the Showtime/CBS model, anything less than 1.5m was considered a failure.


            i consider it a success given it's over a million, but CBS has four times the viewership of HBO, and Manny had a prime time 60 minutes slot and still couldn't outdraw a guy who supposedly isn't a draw and people ONLY pay to see lose.....but fair play to Manny he is a BIG drawcard.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by ThePrince View Post
              1.3 million PPV buys is considered a failure, huh? What would you call this then?
              Schaefer calling for four million PPV buys!

              Most astute boxing writers think the Shane Mosley-Floyd Mayweather fight will do huge numbers on pay-per-view. Numbers in excess of 1.5 million PPV buys would be deemed a success. According to Yahoo! Sports' Kevin Iole, Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer is dreaming big. He says according to many of their projections, four million is a possibility.

              Before you scoff, how many people thought Mayweather's fight against Juan Manuel Marquez would do one million? Now four million is an incredible number, but with the power of Mayweather's "Money" persona, new marketing techniques, increased media exposure and unique promotions like the one with DeWalt tools, boxing is breaking barriers when it comes to getting people fired up about it mega-fights.

              http://sports.yahoo.com/box/blog/box...urn=box-237601


              For a fight that was universally panned, an 8-1 betting mismatch, against a guy coming off a lopsided loss and a lackluster draw, I'd say 1.3 mil is pretty damn good. If that's the tally for a boycotted garbage fight, just imagine what a popular fight like Pac-JMM would do with the same promotional model (tweaked a bit for more regular time slots for the Fight Camp on CBS, 9AM on the west coast isn't exactly ideal and more commercials wouldn't hurt). 1.5 million buys isn't at all farfetched IMO.

              Then again, it's Ben Thompson from Fight Hype with the usual unnamed 'sources' feeding him info, so take that with a grain of salt.

              If true, that means Pac and Cotto have tallied about 1.6 million PPV buys this year since the move to SHOWTIME, with Cotto's 250K buys at least doubling the combined buys for all HBO PPVs this year. You think maybe they're regretting turning Cotto-Martirosyan?

              Top Rank would be foolish to go back to HBO. Just wish they would use the increased exposure to push other fighters as well. Brandon Rios became a star after he stole the show on the Pacquiao-Margarito 24/7 and Khan has gotten some air time on the program as well.
              Why are you bringing up Mayweather-Mosley? To point out that like Pacquiao-Mayweather, it didn't hit expectations? Why yes, I agree!

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              • #47
                Originally posted by brick wall View Post
                damn only in nsb you will see a battle of wits about ppv numbers
                crazy, this site is weird... i can only imagine what the posters on here look like, probably a bunch of social awkwards who cant carry a real conversion... the whole "*******"/ "*****" thing is weird.... most of the posters on here express themselves the complete opposite they would in a face to face conversation... classical psychology

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by check hook View Post
                  i consider it a success given it's over a million, but CBS has four times the viewership of HBO, and Manny had a prime time 60 minutes slot and still couldn't outdraw a guy who supposedly isn't a draw and people ONLY pay to see lose.....but fair play to Manny he is a BIG drawcard.
                  I'm not saying it's a failure. I said according to their model it's a failure. Quite frankly, I hope any ****ty fight fails because that's the only way we'll get some good ones.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                    Why are you bringing up Mayweather-Mosley? To point out that like Pacquiao-Mayweather, it didn't hit expectations? Why yes, I agree!
                    Even if they didn't meet certain expectations, some outright ridiculous, 1.3+ million buys is a massive success. No one in their right mind expected 2-4 million buys for fights against Shane Mosley. Don't know how it can be construed to be a failure in any way, shape, or form though. But if that helps you sleep at night to believe that, go nuts.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Dandiez1 View Post
                      http://fighthype.com/pages/content10078.html

                      It looks like the numbers are official at 1.3. I know the jokers and haters thought it would do worse but no one really believed it would do under a million that knows boxing. My issue is that CBS had no impact as this is close to the HBO numbers he has been doing with de la hoya, cotto and margarito. I hope they go back to HBO for Pac vs Marquez 3 as it could still do good numbers and be an actual good broadcast.

                      not bad for a non-American guy.
                      imagine if floyd was from Kenya and speaks like clottey.
                      how well would floyd do?
                      example (floyd from kenya speaking) "allo load lead to floud maywouder".

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