Comments Thread For: Arum To DiBella: Get Off Your Ass, Build Martinez Up!

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Martinez has nobody to build up against. He's hit the wall at his division. Right now, since Chavez won a belt, that's the biggest fight he's going to get. And even at that he's not getting that one right away either. I don't think he'll move to 168. Best he can do is knock off the rest of the ranked names at 160, even if they aren't stars, other than Chavez.

He needs to go after the Champs and the champs only.


If he cant get the WBC Champ then go after Sturm (WBA), Slyvester (IBF) or Pirog the WBO Champ.

[paulf]

He needs to go after the Champs and the champs only.


If he cant get the WBC Champ then go after Sturm (WBA), Slyvester (IBF) or Pirog the WBO Champ.

This is the only way things can work for Martinez. Since he's of an ethnicity that doesn't have a base in America and doesn't speak English, he is not going to be a PPV star and guarantee his opponents millions of dollars to fight him.

Promoters will angle their ticket sellers/hypejobs/prettyboys away from him if they can, but if a guy grabs up all the titles then they are forced to fight him. That's why stripping Martinez of his titles the way they have is such an outrage. Those belts are the ONLY way these cowards are going to step in the ring with him.

Williams is going to have the same problem if he beats Lara. The champs at 154 aren't going to want to go anywhere near him, and he has no belts and thus no leverage. Think of how long HBO had been pushing Williams, and even with the network behind him he still couldn't get the fights he deserved because his opponents promoters knew he would win.

[waxfondler]

arum has a point though... sergio is the #2 p4p, but has absolutely no fan following... WE, as boxing fans, respect sergio... but real talk is sergio CANT headline a show by himself.

he DID lose all the steam after the p-will KO... they dropped the ball on that...

and we all know how bob feels about "doing other promotors work". LOL

[Clyde Barrow]

He needs to go after the Champs and the champs only.


If he cant get the WBC Champ then go after Sturm (WBA), Slyvester (IBF) or Pirog the WBO Champ.

It's a matter of convenience. Whoever he can get, he should fight. He doesn't need to go after anybody since he's rightfully the undisputed champion. Sturm could be a tough fight for him but it would be godawful to watch. I'd like to see him face Pirog.

[Left Hook Tua]

Martinez wants Sturm. Sturm doesn't want Martinez. This is common knowledge.

damn.

arum must be sturm's promoter too then.

[AddiX]

Sergio and his promoter needs to look no further than Paul Williams to see what happens when you don't build yourself as a ticket seller. Your stuck fighting the guys no one else wants to fight.

This is entertainment, if no one wants to watch you, it doesn't matter what you did or can do.

[AddiX]

damn.

arum must be sturm's promoter too then.

Sturm makes a fortune where he fights. Because he was actuallly built to sell tickets. He doesn't need Martinez for anything.

[KnockUTheFukOut]

Exactly!

Dibella is nothing but an opportunity promoter. He grabs established fighters and tries to turn a quick $ off them.

The only fighter he "built" was andre Berto and most of that was haymons work. Fans can't expect promoters who put time and money into fighters to just throw that away. You know how much money promoters lose?

How much you think arum lost on vilero, or fools like Omar Henry who never pan out? These promoters lose more money on fighters and events than you guys can imagine. This **** cost a lot of money.

Yeah I agree as well, this goes beyond Bob Arum...

I think other promoters want to piggy back off of what Arum has BUILD and he is not going to let it happen...AND I DON'T BLAME HIM! It sucks from a fans stand point...but from a business stand point what Arum is doing is...GENIUS!

[waxfondler]

This is the only way things can work for Martinez. Since he's of an ethnicity that doesn't have a base in America and doesn't speak English, he is not going to be a PPV star and guarantee his opponents millions of dollars to fight him.

Promoters will angle their ticket sellers/hypejobs/prettyboys away from him if they can, but if a guy grabs up all the titles then they are forced to fight him. That's why stripping Martinez of his titles the way they have is such an outrage. Those belts are the ONLY way these cowards are going to step in the ring with him.

Williams is going to have the same problem if he beats Lara. The champs at 154 aren't going to want to go anywhere near him, and he has no belts and thus no leverage. Think of how long HBO had been pushing Williams, and even with the network behind him he still couldn't get the fights he deserved because his opponents promoters knew he would win.

good post. agree 100%
martinez needs to stay active and keep lining them up.

[Kagami Taiga]

Look at the hypocrisy again. Dibella said "I'm not fighting a guy who doesn't bring 50 cents to the table." Pretty much Dibella is acting like Martinez has been greatly promoted to the point that he's a superstar PPV attraction is he not? To make it seem as Martinez is levels above Pirog in promotion is ludicrous.

It's not hard to call a spade a spade.

he is levels above pirog in promotion. pirog doesn't even fight on HBO or showtime on a regular basis. stop it, ur trying to compare two situations that aren't even remotely the same. Martinez is a p4p fighter with a name, even if its small. pirog? he doesn't deserve a name because he hasn't done anything. ur trying to make a point that doesn't exist. ur making iit seem as if Martinez is some no name prospect, that's exactly wat pirog is tho. and I'm not even saying Martinez shldnt fight pirog but Chavez fighting and beating marttinez does a whooooole lot more for Chavez than Martinez beating pirog. and that is no hypocrisy.