If Ward can't hurt Froch, can he Dirrell him?

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  • Walt Liquor
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    #31
    Originally posted by KnockUTheFukOut
    OK Froch can have the Inside Game...how does Froch deal with the Speed from the outside though

    all this crap about Inside and Power and Hurting Froch...Ward really won't need either, I think he can move in and out on Froch all night and land at will on Froch and then turn around and avoid most of Froch's Power Punches...Abraham did a great job stuffing all of Ward's clinch attempts and really didn't allow Ward to get inside and he still lost

    Not sure why people think Ward needs to get inside to win...that is really NOT TRUE
    Now this is a great analysis to me kutfo, this is what wards gameplan will be and if he can do it, ***n a, I will be joining all the folks on the bandwagon. But those inside outside skills you claim dre has have worked on one dimensional types guys and I don't think froch is that type of fighter. I still envision a very close fight b/c froch can turn dre too and froch can fight from angles, inside and out and probably has a better chin. In flurries, froch has the advantage.

    Iron dan, I would expect better tha you comparing how froch did vs kessler vs how ward did vs kessler. Froch has 2 better wins in the tourney than wards best win IMO.

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    • B.U.R.N.E.R
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      #32
      Where did this iron chin shyt come from? And this is from a Froch fan.

      GJ hurt him
      Dirrell hurt him several times
      Kessler hurt him

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      • Walt Liquor
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        #33
        Originally posted by S.O.G. Loc
        Kessler was the #1 SMW and favorite to win the tournament.
        Kessler was coming of the calzaghe l, inactivity, a decent outing at best v perdomo so stop cingular with rookie stuff. I know this ain't mang jr is it?

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          #34
          Ward will throughly outbox him. If Froch wants to play tough and fight inside Ward will pull his skirt and **** him. If he wants to play slick boxer he'll get outpointed on the outside.

          The counter right hand, the jab and the body shots are there to be had against Froch. He will have his moments but I see Ward compelty undressing him. It will be a fun fight to watch though.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Walt Liquor
            Now this is a great analysis to me kutfo, this is what wards gameplan will be and if he can do it, ***n a, I will be joining all the folks on the bandwagon. But those inside outside skills you claim dre has have worked on one dimensional types guys and I don't think froch is that type of fighter. I still envision a very close fight b/c froch can turn dre too and froch can fight from angles, inside and out and probably has a better chin. In flurries, froch has the advantage.

            Iron dan, I would expect better tha you comparing how froch did vs kessler vs how ward did vs kessler. Froch has 2 better wins in the tourney than wards best win IMO.
            How many dimensions do you think Carl Froch has?

            I have followed his entire career and he really isn't a fighter with lots of dimensions.

            People are acting like because he outboxed Abraham he can outbox fighters. That simply isn't Carl Froch.

            I didn't once compare Wards win over Kessler to Froch's win over Kessler.

            You said Ward has fought inferior fighters. Yet, he has a win over the man who beat Froch and also has a win over argubally the best win of Frochs whole career. Thus making is hard to justify that argument.

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              #36
              I mean look at the AA fight. Right after Andre said that wasnt the gameplan and he wanted to go inside but AA did a good job of negating the inside game so Ward beat his ass from the outside. This kid has an all around game.

              I love Froch but some of are you are making him out to be this multi-dimensional monster and he isnt. He is what he is.

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              • IronDanHamza
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                #37
                Originally posted by No Ceilings
                Where did this iron chin shyt come from? And this is from a Froch fan.

                GJ hurt him
                Dirrell hurt him several times
                Kessler hurt him
                Taylor hurt him also but he does have a good chin.

                And more over he has an exceptional recovery rate.

                I struggle to see Froch ever being stopped. Atleast at 168.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  Taylor hurt him also but he does have a good chin.

                  And more over he has an exceptional recovery rate.

                  I struggle to see Froch ever being stopped. Atleast at 168.
                  I forgot about JT. Pascal rocked him too.

                  His chin is okay to average at best. But iron chin? Hell no. This dude has been hurt wayyy too much have that tag.

                  He does wake up pretty quick. Usaully by punching back its a weird dynamic. GJ hurt hima few times but right after Froch just started swinging even when hurt.

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                    #39
                    LOL at Froch's chin being "OK to average at best"

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by No Ceilings
                      I forgot about JT. Pascal rocked him too.

                      His chin is okay to average at best. But iron chin? Hell no. This dude has been hurt wayyy too much have that tag.

                      He does wake up pretty quick. Usaully by punching back its a weird dynamic. GJ hurt hima few times but right after Froch just started swinging even when hurt.
                      I think it's a little brash to say his chin is average at best.

                      After all, he has only been down once his entire career if I'm not mistaken and has fought some pretty good punchers throughout his career and taken alot of clean shots.

                      He atleast has a good chin IMO. At the very least.

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