How will Wladimir Klitschko -vs- David Haye play out??

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  • vacon04
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    #21
    Originally posted by Akucapri
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    Haye: Wins by KO
    Lol If Wlad manages to get all those jabs then by the time Haye tries to throw a right hand he'll be dead.

    Now to answer the question. I do believe that Wlad is going to land is jab all night long. Wlad is not Valuev, Valuev was extremely slow and not skilled at all, while even though Wlad is not fast, he's way faster than Valuev and has a very accurate left hand.

    I think that the first rounds are going to be Wlad throwing and landing his jab while Haye moves around the ring like he did against Valuev. However Haye is going to realize that Wlad hits harder than Valuev and that he actually is able to move around the ring too.

    In the next rounds Haye is going to be a little more desperate and is going to try to land the occassional 1-2 combination to try to KO Wlad, however Haye's reach is going to be a problem so he's not going to be able to throw his hands with the power he's trying to.

    Around round 8 or 9 Haye is going to be tired from running around the ring and because of Wlad's powerful jab and he's going to be caught by one of those powerful right hands and is going to be KOd.

    Now about the main "questions" of the fight.

    Is Wlad going to be able to hold on against Haye powerful punches?

    I think so, Haye is a strong opponent but he actually hasn't showed anything in the HW division. From his past 4 opponents, 3 were over 37 years old and the other one was Valuev who was a pretty poor boxer who avoided Wlad and Vitali for years. Haye has a lot of KOs in the CW division but HW is not the same and at least from what I've seen he hasn't showed that he has the power to KO top heavyweights.
    Wlad has fought against powerful punchers such as Samuel Peter, Chagaev, Ibragimov and some others, and has proved that has a better chin and that he's able to stand some hard puches.

    Is Wlad going to be able to handle Haye's speed?

    I also think so, Haye is fast but he's not extremely fast so that Wlad is not able to see his shots. Wlad has defeated fast boxers such as Chambers and Byrd, even when people said "he's not going to be able to handle the speed". What is actually more important than speed is to be able to hit your opponent. Haye is fast, but being fast is not helpful at all if he doesn't get close to Wladimir to land his punches. At the time he gets into Wlad's range to throw some hard fast punches he's going to be vulnerable and Wlad can exploit that.

    Now some points that most people are not aware of.

    Haye hasn't proved that he's able to take punches from strong boxers. His last fights as I said were against old, extremely slow and not so powerful anymore boxers. Valuev is strong, but being extremely slow meant that he couldn't actually land shots on Haye. Let's see how good is actually Haye's chin.

    Footwork. Haye has been able to move all around the ring in his previous fights because of the opposition that he had. Slow fighters with almost no footwork at all. Wlad has great footwork. Some people say that he's stiff and doesn't has the mobility that other boxers have, but he's actually pretty good when using his feet. He actually seems like a fighter with no mobility because he doesn't need to move a lot to close the ring to his rivals. By just moving a little to the left or to the right he confuses his opponent and reduces their space. Haye should be aware of this.

    Again that's only my opinion, it's a HW fight with two of the best so anything can happen.

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    • shenmue
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      #22
      I see either Haye getting battered untill Wlad decides to end it, or Haye gets a Early to mid KO victory.

      My money is on Haye getting Brutally stopped or knocked out.

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      • KnockUTheFukOut
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        #23
        I see Haye successfully sticking and moving early and actually being very effective and maybe even building a lead early on the Cards...but then he slows down and will have to do more covering up and trying to block Wlad Power Punches instead of dodging and running away from them like he will be able to early in that fight...and that is when I think Wlad probably gets him

        I see Haye building a early lead on the Cards, then trying to RUN TO THE CARDS and then Wlad starts catching him more late in the fight, if Haye can actually eat a few of those Power Punches without getting hurt or going down...THEN HE WINS BY UD, if he can't then I think Wlad KO's him LATE (which I think is more likely to happen)

        Haye camp talk about using a similar Formula to what Groves did against DeGale so obviously the plan is to stick and move and make Wlad miss a lot, I could see Wlad having problems pulling the trigger on his punches early in he fight and Steward yelling at him in the Corner "YOU GOT TO LET YOUR HANDS GO...YOUR NOT LETTING YOUR HANDS GO"

        David Haye is VERY QUICK...or at least he will be early in the fight when he has Fresh Legs so Wlad will have trouble landing clean most of this fight
        Last edited by KnockUTheFukOut; 06-03-2011, 03:23 PM.

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        • Boxing Scene
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          #24
          Same as every other Wlad fight. Wlad sets up Haye with the jab then knocks him out.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Boxing Scene
            Same as every other Wlad fight. Wlad sets up Haye with the jab then knocks him out.
            Pretty much this except quicker then any of his other fights HOPEFULLY. Haye is tailor made for Wlad. People want to be delusional and think he's what the heavyweights been missing but he hasn't fought nobody with a pulse and isn't the aggressive relentless good cardio iron chin having power puncher that's going to stop Wlad.

            I actually think he has a better chance outboxing Vital. He's not aggressive at all, he just circles. Not all that great technically, it's up to Wlad how long this lasts. Haye will be circling all night losing to Wlad's jab until Wlad finally feels like taking him out with his own right hand.

            Should be a pretty boring fight unless Wlad actually wants to get him out of there early.

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            • DrewWoodside
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              #26
              Originally posted by led's baby mama
              Pretty much this except quicker then any of his other fights HOPEFULLY. Haye is tailor made for Wlad. People want to be delusional and think he's what the heavyweights been missing but he hasn't fought nobody with a pulse and isn't the aggressive relentless good cardio iron chin having power puncher that's going to stop Wlad.

              I actually think he has a better chance outboxing Vital. He's not aggressive at all, he just circles. Not all that great technically, it's up to Wlad how long this lasts. Haye will be circling all night losing to Wlad's jab until Wlad finally feels like taking him out with his own right hand.

              Should be a pretty boring fight unless Wlad actually wants to get him out of there early.
              According to this, you seem to think Haye is an even less live dog than Wlads other recent opponents. I disagree in that regard. He's at least bringing attributes that Wlad hasn't seen in a while.

              If you look at Haye's heavyweight resume you will be underwhelmed. This is certain, but many of the reasons he didn't look spectacular was how do you look spectacular against John Ruiz and Valuev? Had he respected Ruiz more, he might have looked better, but he did what he had to do. And he was still getting his feet wet with the division and imo learning the landscape.

              He will possibly Wlad's most determined opponent in several years.

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                #27
                Originally posted by DrewWoodside
                According to this, you seem to think Haye is an even less live dog than Wlads other recent opponents. I disagree in that regard. He's at least bringing attributes that Wlad hasn't seen in a while.

                If you look at Haye's heavyweight resume you will be underwhelmed. This is certain, but many of the reasons he didn't look spectacular was how do you look spectacular against John Ruiz and Valuev? Had he respected Ruiz more, he might have looked better, but he did what he had to do. And he was still getting his feet wet with the division and imo learning the landscape.

                He will possibly Wlad's most determined opponent in several years.
                Why did he even fight Ruiz in the first place? I don't think he's any faster then Chambers but does bring power that Chambers didn't but it's not devastating power, it's overrated like Maidana's. He don't put nobody unconscious. Ruiz & Fraudley never have been known to take great punches.

                Too beat Wlad I feel you need to have a good chin with good cardio to set a pace he's uncomfortable with because I think in his KO losses it's more him tiring out then him getting his lights turned out. His boring slow pace works to his advantage because of his size. Once you make him uncomfortable and not let him fight his fight you stand a damn good chance. Haye's not aggressive enough in my eyes to put Wlad in trouble. He likes to circle and land shots from the outside which he can't do to Wlad.

                Wlad will keep him at bay with the jab all night until he puts him to sleep with that right. People are just too desperate to see Wlad lose that they aren't thinking clearly. Haye is nothing special.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Boxing Scene
                  Same as every other Wlad fight. Wlad sets up Haye with the jab then knocks him out.
                  This right here, despite all the talk I don't see Haye taking a chance

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                  • sweetpea87
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                    #29
                    Ends in a draw. No really though I am picking Wlad to win by TKO or KO in later rounds.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by King Jaffe Joffer
                      This is gonna be a snoozer.
                      Haye will stay out of range of Wlads jab
                      Wlad will get frustrated
                      A lot of nothing happening the first half of the fight..
                      Haye take a lot of risk
                      A lot of booing..

                      I have a feeling this will be a disaster


                      Im basing this off of how Haye fought Valuev, so if he fought like that vs the Russian, you better believe he wont engage with Wlad until Wlad shows signs of fatigue.. Haye better be well conditioned and thats an understatement
                      This^^^^^^^

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