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  • #41
    Originally posted by chiguy91 View Post
    manny chose to fight at different weight classes, if a fighter from that weight class calls him out, that fighter has to go up even more to prove to be as good as manny? or p4p #1? there's other ways of achieving the number 1 spot on the p4p list. manny chose to ignore weightclasses and just start collecting random belts to try and make history. now that he's in this predicament, his fanboys are trying to say he's finally hit the limit and can't fight martinez. but since manny did this, martinez needs to do it too...look at nonito donaire, he's weighed throughout 112 to 118 lbs his whole career and he's already p4p #3. that's 6 pounds!! martinez has gone up 12 lbs throughout his career. saying martinez has to go up to LHW to prove to be p4p #1 or on manny's level is idiotic man, you obviously haven't seen much boxing outside of manny pacman pacquiao
    im not asking sergio to totally do what pac has done coz that would be impossble for him to do ..... im want him to do what he wants pac (to fight him) which is to fight someone like bhop or dawson, cloud etc....theres is no predicamnet with pacfans, coz ac aint really hard to defend at all....

    where are you going with nonito just climbing up 6 lbs and comparing him to sergio?....tbh, nonto's resume is better than seergio but thats another story..

    im not asking segio to prove he's the # 1 guy coz he is not....

    what should be asked of him is to do what he wants pac to do......nah what mean...

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    • #42
      Originally posted by puga View Post
      ****.....if you think margo was a bum then **** *** it, yes....but sergio is too samll for smw..that means even guys like kessler or AA he wont even fight....but he will fight a small ww at sww(full weight) tho...lol
      U said Pacman standards bro,but yet U keep bringing up fighters that are ranked correctly.Margarito got suspended for cheating.Was previously ko'd & got some homecooking doctored up rankings at 154.Martinez would have to dig really low to find that kind of scum at 168 to fight at a catchweight for a vacant strap bro.In accordance with Paman standards of course.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by puga View Post
        here:

        pac should fight jmm at 135 and sergio at 154.....that is 19 lbs in between ONLY, they say...cool!

        lets apply the same to other fighters:

        martinez- he can fight at 154.....add 19 lbs to that is 173....he should fight lh's like bhop and dawson...****, he should not have problems fighting at smw at all if he was held on the same standards as pac...right?....lol

        marquez- let's cut him some slack since he is an inferior fighter to pac and start him off at 130..add 19 lbs to is 149...there shouldnt be a problem for him fighting at ww or even at sww (catchweight) if he was held on the same standard as pac.....right?....lol

        floyd - we all know he cant make less than ww so lets start him off at 146( his official weight vs jmm )....add 19 lbs to that and he should fight as high as 165...thats smw right there....him fighting at middleweight is already asking too much ..but even at smw (cathcweight ) it shouldn be a problem if he was held on the same standards as pac....right ?....lol

        counterhook?..lol

        the diffrence is that pac has fought at jmw before, right?.....wrong...pac has fought at jmw as a ww.....if you ask pac to keep doing and ask him to fight at his minimum and maxumum weight depneding on who he is fighting, you should also ask other fighters(esp the ones who claim to be or wannabee p4p king) to do the same....all of these fighter can and should only do one or the other exept pac....is that fair?.....lol...ridiculous aint it?...
        gayest post i ever read. Ppl expect this from him because he won a vacant JMW title against cheato @ a catch weight but they say sergio martinez is too big(but really hes too skilled and is on a win streak). Other fighters aren't winning BS titles with the media and fans bragging about weight class accomplishments against b-level opposition. Lmao @pacs standards.. he is held to low standards.. if he was held to high standards he would've been inactive since the cotto fight.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
          U said Pacman standards bro,but yet U keep bringing up fighters that are ranked correctly.Margarito got suspended for cheating.Was previously ko'd & got some homecooking doctored up rankings at 154.Martinez would have to dig really low to find that kind of scum at 168 to fight at a catchweight for a vacant strap bro.In accordance with Paman standards of course.
          damn dude..im even lowering the standrad for sergio....picking fighters at 168 intead of lhs......well, the reason you cant understanrd the whole piont of putting everyone on the same startdrds is your margo hate....doubled with downplaying pac...just be sensible about it for a minute if you want to discuss it...

          im sure he can find lh fighters who would love to fight him...but segio already said he is too samll even for smw so he aint doing **** similar to what he wants pac to do....

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          • #45
            Originally posted by nwo riggs View Post
            gayest post i ever read. Ppl expect this from him because he won a vacant JMW title against cheato @ a catch weight but they say sergio martinez is too big(but really hes too skilled and is on a win streak). Other fighters aren't winning BS titles with the media and fans bragging about weight class accomplishments against b-level opposition. Lmao @pacs standards.. he is held to low standards.. if he was held to high standards he would've been inactive since the cotto fight.
            how the **** you think sergio won his 154 title dumb dumb?......where do you think dzinziruk was rated at mw when sergio fought him?....think before you talk...thats if you have a brain

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            • #46
              Originally posted by puga View Post
              im not asking sergio to totally do what pac has done coz that would be impossble for him to do .....im want him to do what he wants pac (to fight him) which is to fight someone like bhop or dawson, cloud etc....theres is no predicamnet with pacfans, coz ac aint really hard to defend at all....

              where are you going with nonito just climbing up 6 lbs and comparing him to sergio?....tbh, nonto's resume is better than seergio but thats another story..

              im not asking segio to prove he's the # 1 guy coz he is not....

              what should be asked of him is to do what he wants pac to do......nah what mean...
              how did you get dawson/bhop? pac weighs around 145ish (144.##) at weigh-ins and fought margs who weighed in at 150, that's 5 lbs. martinez usually weighs in at 159, so you want him to fight someone who's unranked at 164 for a belt??? if you're talking about fight night weight (when they rehydrate) then that means manny can easily make JMW since he more than likely weighs in around 148-150ish on fight nights. did they show fight night weight against margs or mosley? that would mean hopkins would have to fight cruiserweights, ortiz would have to fight SMWs.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by RubenSonny View Post
                Thats a real weight?.......
                well, its a semi-substantial weight class.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
                  U feel that loosing to B-Hop at 170 would be a shameful thing,Why??
                  i never said it'd be shameful

                  i just think it'd be ****** as ****, he should do it tho, it'd be hilarious

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by chiguy91 View Post
                    how did you get dawson/bhop? pac weighs around 145ish (144.##) at weigh-ins and fought margs who weighed in at 150, that's 5 lbs. martinez usually weighs in at 159, so you want him to fight someone who's unranked at 164 for a belt??? if you're talking about fight night weight (when they rehydrate) then that means manny can easily make JMW since he more than likely weighs in around 148-150ish on fight nights. did they show fight night weight against margs or mosley? that would mean hopkins would have to fight cruiserweights, ortiz would have to fight SMWs.
                    people has been sayin pac should be fighting jmm at 135 and serio at 54..that 19lbs.....now, sergio wants pac at 154...add 19 lbs to that is lh, with daswon bhop etc...thats how i got it...

                    i dont want him to fight at 164, where did you get that?....lol..i want him to do like what he wants pac to do whcih is to fight bigger man at 19lbs above his comfortable weightclass....pac's highest weight fightnight is 149, pretty much a ww...

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by chiguy91 View Post
                      haha, man why do you keep saying full weight like manny is being forced to come in at the limit? he's never weighed the limit at WW. his last fight he weighed in at 145. JMW is 148-154, manny can come in at whichever of those pounds he wants, as long as he's in that weightclass. martinez will too. everyone recognizes him as an 8 division champ, his 8th being JMW. if martinez went up to 175 and fought hopkins, i'd want for him to fight other 175ers too, especially if he fought for a belt
                      .....lol....there is no minumum limt , only maximum limit.......

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