Comments Thread For: Arum Talks Golden Apology, Pacquiao-Ortiz, Mayweather

[jrosales13]

You're right, except when Pac is involved. C'mon Jro, he's been hating on Pac since before JMM II and never fails to hop on a PED thread.

Well being a pac hater doesn't mean you're a *****. It just means you're a Pac hater. Also he has always mention that Pac is greater than Mayweather my quite a margin. Has even said Pac is arguably greater than Roy(who's his favorite fighter) I mean what kind of hater says that? Also was just as happy as I was when Pac whooped Oscar. I do agree that he does hop on every PED thread. But, he was talking about the problems with PED's in boxing way before this whole Pac thing. He just feels strongly about the issue. Nothing wrong with that since it is a big problem that needs to be addressed.

[letsgobrady]

Well IMDAZED is not a *****, he's a very knowledgeable and great poster here. He might have his reasons with why he feels that way.

arum said he couldn't involve golden boy in any of mannys fights because of whatever reason but remember the only negotiations we know for sure were official with floyd and manny was back in december/january with golden boy backin floyd which was when team pac walked away to fight clottey

[madsweeney]

Well being a pac hater doesn't mean you're a *****. It just means you're a Pac hater. Also he has always mention that Pac is greater than Mayweather my quite a margin. Has even said Pac is arguably greater than Roy(who's his favorite fighter) I mean what kind of hater says that? Also was just as happy as I was when Pac whooped Oscar. I do agree that he does hop on every PED thread. But, he was talking about the problems with PED's in boxing way before this whole Pac thing. He just feels strongly about the issue. Nothing wrong with that since it is a big problem that needs to be addressed.

I know he's not a *****, its just when it comes to the PED issue and match-making (granted there's merit there) he tends to side with them, I mean look, he made sure to hop on this bandwagon and Arum didn't even really say ****.

[jrosales13]

arum said he couldn't involve golden boy in any of mannys fights because of whatever reason but remember the only negotiations we know for sure were official with floyd and manny was back in december/january with golden boy backin floyd which was when team pac walked away to fight clottey

Well GBP and TR didn't have a problem back then, did they? The problem came after those negotiations. When Oscar said before the negotiations that "Pacquiao doesn't hit hard" and then after the negotiations Oscar said "It makes you wonder, Pacquiao hit as hard as Mosley and Vargas"

WTF? did he not think Vargas or Mosley hit hard? Coincidence that he put Pac in with 2 knows PED users?

That's when the whole GBP-TR beef started. Before that they were working together. A year prior they made Pac-Hatton together. It's when those negotiations failed apart is when the beef happened.

So....My question still remains.

[IMDAZED]

Well GBP and TR didn't have a problem back then, did they? The problem came after those negotiations. When Oscar said before the negotiations that "Pacquiao doesn't hit hard" and then after the negotiations Oscar said "It makes you wonder, Pacquiao hit as hard as Mosley and Vargas"

WTF? did he not think Vargas or Mosley hit hard? Coincidence that he put Pac in with 2 knows PED users?

That's when the whole GBP-TR beef started. Before that they were working together. A year prior they made Pac-Hatton together. It's when those negotiations failed apart is when the beef happened.

So....My question still remains.

GBP and TR never really stopped working "together." Just on the big fights (what does that tell you?). And their beef goes way, way back. They've had plenty of cold wars before, unfortunately.

[letsgobrady]

Well GBP and TR didn't have a problem back then, did they? The problem came after those negotiations. When Oscar said before the negotiations that "Pacquiao doesn't hit hard" and then after the negotiations Oscar said "It makes you wonder, Pacquiao hit as hard as Mosley and Vargas"

WTF? did he not think Vargas or Mosley hit hard? Coincidence that he put Pac in with 2 knows PED users?

That's when the whole GBP-TR beef started. Before that they were working together. A year prior they made Pac-Hatton together. It's when those negotiations failed apart is when the beef happened.

So....My question still remains.

the problem actually came during those negotiations

[jrosales13]

GBP and TR never really stopped working "together." Just on the big fights (what does that tell you?). And their beef goes way, way back. They've had plenty of cold wars before, unfortunately.

Well I know they had a cold war that last like a couple of years, years ago.

When did they work together since January of last year? The only thing I can think of is on Pac fights cuz' GBP has like a small percentage to Pac rights. Is that where you getting at?

[jrosales13]

the problem actually came during those negotiations

Not really but OK, during. How does that change the overall point to that post?

[IMDAZED]

Well I know they had a cold war that last like a couple of years, years ago.

When did they work together since January of last year? The only thing I can think of is on Pac fights cuz' GBP has like a small percentage to Pac rights. Is that where you getting at?

They had fighters on the same Telefutura/Telemundo cards last year. Maybe more than once, I don't remember. I think you already know how I know. I'll see if I can pull up old reports to show you though I tend to avoid listing promoters.

[jrosales13]

They had fighters on the same Telefutura/Telemundo cards last year. Maybe more than once, I don't remember. I think you already know how I know. I'll see if I can pull up old reports to show you though I tend to avoid listing promoters.

Did they? OK, no need to pull them, you can so I can just read them. But, I take your word for it.