Comments Thread For: Arum Talks Golden Apology, Pacquiao-Ortiz, Mayweather

[Code Red]

Served..........

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Looks like arum is open to a manny-ortiz fight which is great.Maybe a fight
between canelo and manny would be considerd

Let's go Pac vs. ORTIZ!!!

I rather watch a manny-ortiz fight than JMM. at least Ortiz is hungry and got his future ahead of him and not behind as JMM.

pac-ortiz may be a good fight because ortiz want to engaged...unlike the "slick, black americans" who will just run and hold and wait for the final bell..

pac-ortiz or pac-canelo or pac-maidana would be better than pac vs. any black americans out there...

im not against any black american fighters because leonard, hagler and hearns were my favorite fighters back then but the new crop of black american fighters like judah, and mayweather were scraps...no offense meant folks...

their will be a lot more nice things happening as long as this truce between TR & GBP sticks, really hope this lasts ...

Pac would murder Vic but I wouldn't mind seeing that fight. Idc about Mayweather anymore tbh.

sure you're right but no recipe really works against pac. if you go close you get destroyed(see: cotto,margarito) if you run away you lose a ud. but yeah public always likes fireworks more. and pac ortiz would be fireworks.

Now that would be a ****ing war. I've been beating this drum ever since victor's balls dropped, a pacquiao ortiz match up would be the most explosive fight that can be made at 147. This fight HAS to happen.

Why not Canelo fight Cotto, Marg & Shane first before going to Pac? And Canelo is at 154 right?

I don't mind Pac facing Canelo but I think Canelo hasn't proven anything yet interms of fighting contenders at either 147 or 154 weight divisions.

I would prefer Pac vs Ortiz rather than put Canelo 1st.

Since Pac has date with JMM on Nov; they Ortiz and Bradley can done also. And the winners will face each other as their next opponent.

Just a cent of my thoughts. PEACE!

This is by far the best news of the year. There are plenty of good fights out there that need to get made, not just pac mayweather. Oscar and Arum could get married and adopt children together, that still wouldn't do anything to force floyd into fighting pacquiao.

Pac Ortiz has to happen for the good of all boxing. U could bring a blind man to that fight and he'd have a good time. That's the kind of match up that will deliver the goods. No way it goes the distance, someone ( vic ) is gonna take a nap.

Pac/Jmm-Pac/Bradley-Pac/Ortiz........Daaahmn!

Ohhhhhhhhhhh so Pac vs. Ortiz is a great fight huh?

[ajohnz]

where you been? floyd retired May 2nd, last year... he won't be fighting again as long as Manny's active.

Don't get all butthurt because the world doesn't stop and wait for FLoyd to gather up some courage to fight Pac.

eat your words much?

[horge]

@jrosales:

The argument being made is that if a defamation lawsuit was the
basis for non-feasibility of a match between TR and GBP fighters,
then the same sort of lawsuit (against Floyd et al) would have also
rendered unfeasible any matchmaking between TR and Floyd et al...
in which case, how could Arum have been trying to make a match
between Pac and Floyd, with a lawsuit still ticking?

Of course, the above argument stands on a few dubious assumptions.

1. That Arum's statement re: Shaefer's/dlH's apologies are factual
and honest. Like, really now... this is Arum with his mouth moving.

2. That Arum's animosity towards Shaefer/OdlH was solely based on
the lawsuit. I think anyone here should know better.

3. That TR and GBP have shared ABSOLUTELY no business since the
lawsuit. IMDAZED has already indicated that at lower levels of
capitalization, TR and GBP still dealt with one another.

Arum was probably oversimplifying his objections to working with GBP,
and the apology meant far more to him than just settling the matter
of defamation: the triumph of hearing them humbling themselves may
have meant satisfaction to Arum wrt other prior grievances.

It is ultimately likely that with enough money on the table (Pac-Floyd),
Arum could put aside personal grievances and try to negotiate through
a third party, which is what supposedly was attempted via HBO's
Greenburg. Ross' declaration that Arum indeed did try to make the
fight should be enough, but some just can't let go of their biases.

In any case... bring on Pac-Ortiz.

[jrosales13]

LOL @ this ****** idiot, "this is Bob Arum lying to you"

Bob Arum, never lied to me. I never talked to Bob Arum. I don't even go by what Arum says, I go by what Greenburg has mentioned. Because, out of everybody involved he's the most credible one since he has no reason to lie.

That whole "this is Bob Arum lying to you" is just as idiotic if not more so than the "that puts you, between a rock and a hard place"

WTF is that suppose to even mean?

I'm sorry I'm not a ****rider like you. I don't agree with every single thing my favorite fighter says or does. No should you, it doesn't make you any less of a fan.

You should try sometime.

[jrosales13]

Jro, remember the " deadline ", the one that expired on July 16th 2010 ?

The " deadline " that was recorded on a countdown timer on the Top Rank website?

The " deadline " that Bob Arum personally negotiated with GBP ?
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29293



Come on man, are you really telling me that you cant see what happened there?

Jro, it is plainly obvious what happened, are you a boxing fan, or just a Manny fan?

HERE IS BOB ARUM LYING TO YOU.....Nobody denies that Arum publicly stated on numerous occasions that he personally negotiated a deal with GBP, who forwarded it to Mayweather for approval. Then he placed a two week " deadline " on the table, even going to the trouble of putting a count-down timer on the Top Rank website.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29293

HERE IS BOB ARUM WHEN FORCED TO ADMIT IT.....
Then, after Bob Arum's conference call, Schaefer immediately released a statement which forced Arum to admit that both him and Ross Greenburg had NEVER spoken with anyone from GBP.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29324

We all got played man, well, most of us

Surprised? You shouldnt be, Arum has been doing this for years.

First of all don't be an idiot.

The "negotiations" that took place, was Arum talking to Greenburg, Greenburg talking to someone from Floyd camp.

That's it.

You don't need GBP to make Pac-Floyd. Because, Floyd Mayweather is not apart of GBP. Do you not understand?

GBP and Floyd are on a fight to fight bases. Floyd can fight Pac, with Don King backing him, Dibella backing him, or with Mayweather promotions. There is no need to have GBP to make such a fight.

So my questions still remains. Where in that quote shows that Arum had no intentions in making such fight?

Now the "negotiations" might have been a sham or not even such "negotiations" really took place. However, what quote in that article proves or disprove that theory?

Do you have reading comprehension? Do you understand what I'm asking? Do you understand that Floyd is not with GBP? Do you understand that GBP is not needed to make such fight? Do you understand that from all accounts the "negotiations" -if you can call it that- was Arum talking to Greenburg, and Greenburg -I guess playing the mediator- talking to somebody from Mayweather camp.

[LeadUppercut]

You are an absolute ****head Penny, a real ***tard.

Honestly, I did not think that I would ever meet a bigger idiot than Check_hooks, but you take the cake man. You are EASILY the biggest ***wit on this site, you are the boxingscene jester.

[LeadUppercut]

The links you put up for proof just made you look like an a$$.

The first link may have had a statement in there where Arum reached with GBP to make a deal with Floyd. BUT! But, I don't see any quotes of Bob saying such & such. Maybe the one who wrote the article didn't quite understood the whole details. He put in there real quotes of Bob, but nothin' about GBP.

The Second link, was just Bob clearing things up for f@gs like you that there was no connection with GBP in dealing with FLoyd but through Al Haymon. It's one of those common mistakes that needed fixing. a$$!

So what if Bob was lying. Bob is known for being a liar one day and who speaks the truth the next. But this article in sum, was just Bob's sympathy-like for Roger, and that he would respect Floyd's decision if he wouldn't fight Pac in 2010 due to valid reason, but hoped there would be a fight in 2011.

PS. Again, truth hurts. a$$
While your digging for more facts. Why don't you try finding one of Oscar saying things the he & Bob tried to reach an agreement with Floyd. That would definitely be one hell of a fact.
here's one for you:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4...yweather-fight

"Golden Boy Promotions represented by Richard Shaefer issued a statement after the lapse of Arum's deadline for Mayweather to agree to his proposal, denying there ever was a negotiation between him and Bob Arum."

You pig-ignorant flag-waving little ****, what a dopey arsewipe you are kid.

You are a piece-of-****, let me tell you why.....

IF, you were really a Manny-fan, you would not be questioning that Bob Arum publicly stated for 7 weeks that he was personally negotiating with GBP. WHY? Because if you were a Manny-fan you would remember very clearly. So, you either dont remember (which makes you a fly-by-night troll) or you are being dishonest (which is what I suspect, because you have been proven to be dishonest in the past).

NOBODY questions the fact that Bob Arum stated for WEEKS that he was personally negotiating with GBP, and that link clearly proves it. If you google the topic, there are dozens of links, I just used the first boxingscene link.

Bob Arum's " deadline " was a total scam, so CLEARLY, it is impossible for there to have been a second round of negotiations.

I nearly p1ssed myself laughing when Schaefer commissioned a press release immediately after Arum's conference call denying that any official negotiations took place..... because Arum was forced to come clean and admit that neither him nor Ross Greenburg had ever spoken with anyone from GBP.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29324

PennyTheP1ssant, stop taking sweeties from dirty old men ya dumb kid, how fkn ****** can you be?

[PennyAnd1]

I cant go to any thread, without hearing Floyds name. I thought this thread was about a possible Ortiz fight. I'm a Floyd's fan, but damn... Shaq just retired, is he a coward too?

Shaq retires for a good reason. He's always injured, slow, and non-productive. Floyd is completely the opposite, yet he retires whenever he wants? **** that!

[PennyAnd1]

Jro, remember the " deadline ", the one that expired on July 16th 2010 ?

The " deadline " that was recorded on a countdown timer on the Top Rank website?

The " deadline " that Bob Arum personally negotiated with GBP ?
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29293



Come on man, are you really telling me that you cant see what happened there?

Jro, it is plainly obvious what happened, are you a boxing fan, or just a Manny fan?

HERE IS BOB ARUM LYING TO YOU.....Nobody denies that Arum publicly stated on numerous occasions that he personally negotiated a deal with GBP, who forwarded it to Mayweather for approval. Then he placed a two week " deadline " on the table, even going to the trouble of putting a count-down timer on the Top Rank website.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29293

HERE IS BOB ARUM WHEN FORCED TO ADMIT IT.....
Then, after Bob Arum's conference call, Schaefer immediately released a statement which forced Arum to admit that both him and Ross Greenburg had NEVER spoken with anyone from GBP.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29324

We all got played man, well, most of us

Surprised? You shouldnt be, Arum has been doing this for years.

The links you put up for proof just made you look like an a$$.

The first link may have had a statement in there where Arum reached with GBP to make a deal with Floyd. BUT! But, I don't see any quotes of Bob saying such & such. Maybe the one who wrote the article didn't quite understood the whole details. He put in there real quotes of Bob, but nothin' about GBP.

The Second link, was just Bob clearing things up for f@gs like you that there was no connection with GBP in dealing with FLoyd but through Al Haymon. It's one of those common mistakes that needed fixing. a$$!

So what if Bob was lying. Bob is known for being a liar one day and who speaks the truth the next. But this article in sum, was just Bob's sympathy-like for Roger, and that he would respect Floyd's decision if he wouldn't fight Pac in 2010 due to valid reason, but hoped there would be a fight in 2011.

PS. Again, truth hurts. a$$
While your digging for more facts. Why don't you try finding one of Oscar saying things the he & Bob tried to reach an agreement with Floyd. That would definitely be one hell of a fact.
here's one for you:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4...yweather-fight

"Golden Boy Promotions represented by Richard Shaefer issued a statement after the lapse of Arum's deadline for Mayweather to agree to his proposal, denying there ever was a negotiation between him and Bob Arum."