Haye's speed will give Wlad lots of problems

[TheSlickster]

I know a lot of people are favoring Wlad in this fight because of his jab and holding. Which is understandable because Wlad has dominated the heavyweight division for so long. But there's one thing that will really dictate the fight. Its not power but SPEED.

Who has Wlad fought that has had very good speed since Brewster? Eddie Chambers has some speed BUT do you honestly believe he's faster than Haye is? Most of the guys Wlad defeated were tailor made for him. Guys with power but slow and coming forward. Atleast Chambers tried to change it up but didn't have the tools to pull that off.

Haye has all the tools to defeat Wlad. He's good very good footwork, very good power, and he's a southpaw. His defense could be better and his level of opposition in the heavyweight division is def lacking BUT lets talk about styles here.

Wlad has one of the best jabs P4P in boxing today. But here's the thing, what is the best way to defeat a jabber? Disrupt his timing. What style of boxing can disrupt the timing of a jab? The Ambush style. Haye has the ambush style. Plus Klitschko has always had trouble with guys who are very fast with their hands and who have power. Haye has those tools PLUS don't forget his footwork. Plus Haye has the better chin of the two of them.

People use the argument "Ruiz got his jab on Haye, what do you think Wlad will do?" People also forget that Ruiz was willing to take punishment to give it. Plus has ANYONE looked good against Ruiz besides Tua's KO and Toney's countering masterpiece against him? Wlad is more safety first....he backs away when his opponent legitimately hurts him. Plus Haye didn't get to spar for a MONTH because of a cut. Thats definitely significant.

The only thing I feel haye has to really worry about it Stamina. Fighting a big man can be tiring, also taking into account Haye's ambush style thats tiring. Take into account of both and he could tire out. But i think Haye and team are def going to work on stamina.

Don't get me wrong, Wlad is a best and also has the tools to beat Haye BUT i just have this weird feeling that Haye's speed will matter more than people realize. I see Haye actually winning on points outboxing Wlad in a boring fight 7 rounds to 5.

Once Haye defeats Wlad, Vitali will be a whole different animal and i feel although Haye wouldn't be destroyed, he'd lose soundly.

[IronDanHamza]

Atleast Wlad has fought fighters with speed.

As opposed to Haye who has never fought anyone with an ATG jab like Wladimir Klitschko. Ontop of no one as strong ir powerful.

I wouldn't say Haye has an ambush style it's more of a 1 punch a time then a little spurt every now and again.

I think Haye has a good chance in the first 4 rounds if he catches Wlad and hurts him which is possible with his speed and power.

But the longer it goes the less chance he has, IMO.

[THe TRiNiTY]

Possible. However, this will depend on how long the fight lasts. If Haye is caught early and doesn't commit to the speed, he's in for a long experience and potentially a short night.

However, if he commits to it and sets up his shots early on, Wladimir might have something legitimate to deal with. Still, it's not something that is going to come easy. Haye has to really get in there and be willing to risk taking some heavy shots. After all, a Wladimir jab is probably going to be the most thudding shot Haye has ever felt.

So, it's high risk for both under certain circumstances.

[vacon04]

I just don't see it. I know it's pretty obvious that Haye is going to try to win this fight by using his superior speed, I mean what else is he going to use, his superior punching power? I don't think so.

Now lets analyze what you've said. The ambush style. I would believe that Haye could actually defead Wladimir IF he was more aggressive, however he is not. He promotes himself as an aggressive fighter, but he actually is very cautious with taking punches, he prefers to get outside of the other boxer range and when he knows he's not going to get hit, then he tries to launch an attack. However this is a different fight.

Haye last opponents were actually pretty bad, none of them could actually compare to Wlad in terms of skill or power. If he's going to create a fight plan similar to the one used against Valuev, then he's going to be KOd by Wlad. Why? Well because Wlad is 10 times faster than the russian giant, he hits even with more power, and most important, he has good footwork. Some people underestimate Wlad's footwork, but he's actually pretty good at using it. He's able to close the ring to his opponents without having to move so much, that's the reason why he doesn't gas out in the last rounds of his fights, he's actually much more efficent when moving and throwing punches around the ring.

Now about the chin, how do you actually know that Haye has the better chin? People keep saying that Wlad has a bad chin and that he's going to be KOd pretty easily. I differ from those opinions. Wlad has improved, he has taken shots from powerful fighters such as Samuel Peter, Chagaev, Ibragimov, etc.

What we actually don't know is Haye's chin. He only has 4 fights at HW, 3 of them were against fighters that were more than 37 years old, and the other one was against Valuev, who was extremely slow and couldnt even land a good punch against Haye. Wlad's chin has been tested in HW, Haye's chin hasn't.

Now the most important part, the SPEED. People seem to think that Haye is INCREDIBLE FAST, that he throws lightning shots at his opponents . He's just not that fast. Yeah I won't deny that he's faster than Wlad, but he's not fast enough yet to make me think that Wlad won't be able to see his shots.
And now, what is speed good for if you can't get in range? Haye is going to get into Wlad's range in order to land his punches, and that's when he's going to be in severe disadvantage. He's going to be close to Wlad in order to actually get into his range, then land a shot, and then get out. If he's not close enough, then he'll never be able to land a punch at all.
Now it's easier said than done. Wlad's style consists in throwing his long powerful jab and then when his opponent is hurt he releases his devastating right hand. So in order for Haye to get into his range and land some good shots, I can assure you that he'll receive a lot of hard jabs during this fight. Haye has never fought a fighter that throws punches as hard as Wladimir does.

Saying all that I think that Wlad gets Haye by KO in the 9 or 10 round. If Haye gets aggressive then he might have a chance in the early rounds when Wlad is trying to establish his game. If he's not, then he'll by KOd by Wlad.

[frosty-g]

Haye has all the tools to defeat Wlad. He's good very good footwork, very good power, and he's a southpaw.

Haye has those tools PLUS don't forget his footwork. Plus Haye has the better chin of the two of them.

haye has awful footwork, especially compared to wlad. it's actually very crude and he relies on jumping forwards more than anything (please don't bother wasting your breath saying how he managed to run rings around valuev, not hard to make that fella look clumsy and lumbering), hence leaving his chin out to dry. better chin? i doubt his "better chin" will be any deciding factor mate.

that southpaw issue might screw up wlad's gameplan and i'm pretty sure he's been training for an orthodox fighter, the crazy kid that he is, you'd think he'd have checked before he started his training camp...

[Larry the boss]

yes his speed will give wlad hell..he'll def test his chin..

[G-DOGS]

Haye's chin is not as good as Wlad's...neither have good chins but Haye's chin is miserable. Haye could pull of the upset, but I doubt it.