how would you rank these fighter??lil list i made

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I don't know if you saw my list but Ali was just about Top 15 in mine.

Obviously I'm only using the names Larry allocated so others would be there also. Mclarnin, Canzoneri etc etc etc

So Ali will most like be even lower on my list. I have him minimum Top 20 though and definitely a case for Top 15 but not Top 10 IMO.

Which again shows how insanely vast the history of this sport is. Something new fans need to quickly understand. That Muhammad Ali, can be considered that low on an ATG list.

He CAN be considered low but I wont dissagree with a list that has him Top 3.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Good list overall but I'm curious to know on what basis you have Jack Johnson ranked ahead of Pernell Whitaker.

That I really struggle to see a case for.

My list is actually missing someone I think. But anyway on Johnson. Hes rated greater than where I had him actually. I can put him there soley on the fight with Jim Jefferies. Or on the fact that the was the first African American Heavyweight Champ. And not to mention how much hatred he dealt with and overcame. The Great White hope he went on, etc.

And I biased towards heavyweights. Which would explain Ali and Louis. 1 and 2.

[IronDanHamza]

My list is actually missing someone I think. But anyway on Johnson. Hes rated greater than where I had him actually. I can put him there soley on the fight with Jim Jefferies. Or on the fact that the was the first African American Heavyweight Champ. And not to mention how much hatred he dealt with and overcame. The Great White hope he went on, etc.

And I biased towards heavyweights. Which would explain Ali and Louis. 1 and 2.

I'm a fan of Jack Johnson as much as anyone. But I really can't see how he can be ranked that highly.

Resume wise I have him in my Top 5 Heavyweights but his Title reign is quite average.

Surely we must consider that Jeffries was coming off a 6 year lay off and weighing in all time high against Johnson? I mean, It's a good win. But I can't see how a that win perpels him to a ranking higher than the like of Pernell Whitaker.

In the case of the hatred point then surely you should have Langford higher than you do, No?

I mean I disagree with your high rankings of Ali and Louis quite whole heartedly but can understand it. Johnson? I can't.

[jtiger777]

-Sugar Ray Robinson
-Muhammad Ali
-Pernell Whitaker
-Harry Greb
-5.Henry Armstrong
6.Ezzard Charles
7.Sam Lagford
8.Roberto Duran
9.Bob Fitzsimmons
10.Joe Louis
11.Benny Leonard
12.Mickey Walker
13.Ray Leonard
14.Willie Pep
15.Joe Gans
16.Archie Moore
17.Gene Tunney
18.Jack Johnson
19.Alexis Arguello
20.Marvin Hagler
21.Barney Ross
22.Sandy Saddler
23.Lennox Lewis
24.Jimmy Wilde
25.Carlos Monzon
26.Julio Cesar Chavez
27.Roy Jones
28.Evander Holyfield
29.Rocky Marciano