How Do You Feel Wlad vs Haye Will Pan Out?

[Perfect Plex]

And I don't just want Wlad Via KO, or Haye Via KO.

Give a in depth review.

-How cautious will both fighters come out?
-Do you feel Haye will be able to take Wlad's jab away?
-Which fighter will land the first bomb?
-Who's more likely to gass first?
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[vacon04]

OK you want a depth comment on this fight, but first of all

Wlad by KO over Haye in 9 rounds.

Now let's go to the why.

Haye says that he's stronger than any opponent than Wlad has ever fought. He says that he's fast, strong, and more aggressive than his other opponents. Well let me tell you that Haye is not aggressive at all. That's the image that he wants to show, but he isn't, he's actually a very cautious fighter that runs around the ring and waits a lot before trying to throw a hard combination.

About Wladimir, we all know that he's also a cautious fighter that throws a lot his jab to diminish his opponents and when he sees that they are tired/hurt he finishes them with his powerful right hand. No great combinations or spectacular shots, but effective 1-2 devastating combination.

I think that in the fight Haye is going to be more careful than he says he's going to be. He's going to try to move around the ring and get away from Wladimir's jab. Wlad on the other hand is going to stay in the middle of the ring trying to close Haye down and force him to stop running around, while at the same time throwing his hard jab.
If Haye isn't able to get close to Wlad AND hit him with good combinations, he's going to have a lot of trouble during this fight.

Most people say that Wlad has no chin, however he has taken some hard shots by boxers such as Samuel Peters who is a hard puncher and has taken those shots pretty well. Haye is not the amazing KO artist that he or some people believe. Yeah he has a good KO record, but most of those KOs are in the CW division with lighter fighters. Let's not forget that Wlad is 245 (And not a bum such as Harrison) and Haye is 215.

For me this is a fight that's going to be KO by Wlad over Haye in 9 or 10 because of some key points:

1. Wlad is stronger than Haye, his punches are something that Haye has never felt before, Haye hits harder than Valuev.
2. Wlad is more skilled than Haye recent fighters. Haye keeps saying "I defeated Valuev, the Russian Giant!"... well yeah, but we all know he was extremely slow, not skilled and a pretty poor HW champion.
3. Haye is not aggressive enough to close down Wlad. Maybe if he was really aggressive he could hit hard Wlad and get a KO, or get KOd who knows, but he's just not that aggressive. Being cautious against Wlad is suicide. He said that he's preparing a Groves like style to beat Wlad, but Wlad DOES USE HIS JAB not like DeGale. If he moves around but still gets jabed, he's going to be destroyed in the later rounds.

[The Gambler1981]

I think it ends up a typical Wlad fight I don't see what Haye does that is going to prevent that. Haye is not the sort that really presses the issue and from the outside he will get eaten alive plus I don't think he has the inside skills to stop Wlad from tying him up or to do enough damage from that range.

I think it ends up being a short night for Wlad because I expect him to let that right hand go a bit more earlier and once that starts I think it is curtains for Mr. Haye.

Haye does gain a chance from that happening though because he needs to make Wlad miss that right while he is still in the fight then he could possibly land a fight altering punch.

[STFU!!]

if haye can get in and out, throws some big shots over the top of wald jab. Haye has a speed advantage. wald punches aren't as effective on the inside.

[DiegoFuego]

Haye will not win this fight. For several reasons.

1. He doesn't think he can win. Otherwise, he would have taken this fight in 2009 when they first tried to put it together. He pulled out with a phony back injury and rushed for a shot at Valuev.

2. He isn't aggressive. He keeps saying he is, but he is every bit as cautious as Wladimir is. Haye won't come out firing combinations the way he should. He would rather lay back and look for one lights out shot that is never going to come. Every Klitschko opponent stands out there and waits. They get picked apart because they don't like the way the jab feels and don't want to risk taking the right hand, even though they probably take way more damage fighting 9, 10, 11 and 12 rounds than they ever would giving a good hard 4-6 round effort.

3. Wlad's chin is soft, but Haye's seems to be just as bad, which is why he fights cautious.

I definitely think Haye can win, but he probably doesn't. He's outsized, not active enough, and he doesn't take a good punch. Wlad takes him out within 7-8 rounds. I hope Haye tries and makes it exciting, but when has a Klitschko opponent since Lamon Brewster in 2004 actually come to fight? Peter, Thompson, Rahman, Chambers, Ibragimov, Briggs, not one of those guys put any effort into their fights with the Klitschkos whatsoever. If Haye at least tries, who knows what will happen?

[Clegg]

Haye will not win this fight. For several reasons.

1. He doesn't think he can win. Otherwise, he would have taken this fight in 2009 when they first tried to put it together. He pulled out with a phony back injury and rushed for a shot at Valuev.

2. He isn't aggressive. He keeps saying he is, but he is every bit as cautious as Wladimir is. Haye won't come out firing combinations the way he should. He would rather lay back and look for one lights out shot that is never going to come. Every Klitschko opponent stands out there and waits. They get picked apart because they don't like the way the jab feels and don't want to risk taking the right hand, even though they probably take way more damage fighting 9, 10, 11 and 12 rounds than they ever would giving a good hard 4-6 round effort.

3. Wlad's chin is soft, but Haye's seems to be just as bad, which is why he fights cautious.

I definitely think Haye can win, but he probably doesn't. He's outsized, not active enough, and he doesn't take a good punch. Wlad takes him out within 7-8 rounds. I hope Haye tries and makes it exciting, but when has a Klitschko opponent since Lamon Brewster in 2004 actually come to fight? Peter, Thompson, Rahman, Chambers, Ibragimov, Briggs, not one of those guys put any effort into their fights with the Klitschkos whatsoever. If Haye at least tries, who knows what will happen?

I think saying "quoted for truth" is gay, so I'll just say that I think this guy is correct and has spoken the truth in this particular post.

[Larry the boss]

someones getting ko'd

[edgarg]

Haye will not win this fight. For several reasons.

1. He doesn't think he can win. Otherwise, he would have taken this fight in 2009 when they first tried to put it together. He pulled out with a phony back injury and rushed for a shot at Valuev.

2. He isn't aggressive. He keeps saying he is, but he is every bit as cautious as Wladimir is. Haye won't come out firing combinations the way he should. He would rather lay back and look for one lights out shot that is never going to come. Every Klitschko opponent stands out there and waits. They get picked apart because they don't like the way the jab feels and don't want to risk taking the right hand, even though they probably take way more damage fighting 9, 10, 11 and 12 rounds than they ever would giving a good hard 4-6 round effort.

3. Wlad's chin is soft, but Haye's seems to be just as bad, which is why he fights cautious.

I definitely think Haye can win, but he probably doesn't. He's outsized, not active enough, and he doesn't take a good punch. Wlad takes him out within 7-8 rounds. I hope Haye tries and makes it exciting, but when has a Klitschko opponent since Lamon Brewster in 2004 actually come to fight? Peter, Thompson, Rahman, Chambers, Ibragimov, Briggs, not one of those guys put any effort into their fights with the Klitschkos whatsoever. If Haye at least tries, who knows what will happen?

Peter tried very hard in their first fight, and landed sone hard shots. The KD's were spurious even remarked on by the commentators and analysts. Klitschko still wond every rd which did nnot have a "KD" in it. he even mentioned this after the fight, that he didn't compain, even with all the rabbit punches but showed that he can take a punch and is a good fighter(Parapheased).

[jtiger777]

Haye will be destroyed

[Clyde Barrow]

Haye, much like everyone else who fights Wlad, is banking on rushing in, finding his glass jaw, and scoring a KO quickly. It's not going to happen, and Haye will be reduced to trying to size up a heavy blow while Wlad smashes him to pieces with the left jab. Wlad will KO Haye in the middle rds.