Gary Shaw On Timmy Bradley

[-Spinal-]

Timothy Bradley wants to build up the Bradley brand but he needs to do that by fighting the other best JWW in the world. Right now there are 2 best JWW's and that's Bradley and Khan. If Bradley doesn't want to fight Khan while Khan is willing, then that should already make Khan the best JWW. Bradley is looking full of shit right now.

And people call Berto overpaid, $750k for Abregu?

[Rome-By-Ko]

How the hell will he negotiate for more money and more fights, if HBO is seeing what he is doing because he have a guranteed fight.

He wont get any more guarantees from HBO, you can bet on that!

And the gurantee for his fight is not against any fighter, is from a list of 4 HBO gave him.

Bradley is a dumb ass!!!

Ok because you say so I guess Bradley must be a dumbazz..But Khan just got sign to a multi fight deal and he is not a draw in the states..Bro it's business not personal(like you are taking it)Bradley is making a smart business move,and HBO is going to respect that fact..

By your logic GBP would/should want to sign Bradley to a deal,do you believe this to be true??

[Rome-By-Ko]

Timothy Bradley wants to build up the Bradley brand but he needs to do that by fighting the other best JWW in the world. Right now there are 2 best JWW's and that's Bradley and Khan. If Bradley doesn't want to fight Khan while Khan is willing, then that should already make Khan the best JWW. Bradley is looking full of shit right now.

And people call Berto overpaid, $750k for Abregu?

Why would Khan have a change of heart about fighting Bradley after one fight??That would make me think Khan never wanted to fight him in the first place..

[-Spinal-]

Why would Khan have a change of heart about fighting Bradley after one fight??That would make me think Khan never wanted to fight him in the first place..

Names become bigger=want to fight bigger names. You never know if Khan moves up to WW and wants to fight bigger guys like Mayweather[who he's been talking about for 2 years now], Ortiz, Berto, Mosley. And Bradley who can't draw flies to a dumpster, will be left in the outside looking in. And you don't know if Bradley just wants 1 fight in between so I don't know what you're saying this 1 fight for, Bradley is probably planning on waiting 12-2 years more to fight Khan which by that time, Khan would be either way better and a bigger name than he is now and Bradley a no name, or Khan would have been knocked out again and his stock dropped, and Bradley could lose as well.

This will look like Mosley-Mayweather. Mayweather calls out Mosley twice, once at 135, another time at 147. Mosley decided to ask an unrealistic $10Million dollars, come up with excuses like he's going on vacation, and then that his tooth hurts. Then Mayweather became bigger, so much bigger than Mosley, and Mosley's stock had dropped and just wanted a big pay day that Mayweather rightfully didn't want to give him, it's an eye for an eye. Bradley is turning down Khan now, I will be 100% backing up Khan if in the future he decides to turn down Bradley. Bradley ain't a star, he's not a big name, no one knows who he is outside of hardcore boxing fans. But he has the chance to be the absolute best at 140 and start from there, and he's turning that down.

[ChampBox@PR]

Ok because you say so I guess Bradley must be a dumbazz..But Khan just got sign to a multi fight deal and he is not a draw in the states..Bro it's business not personal(like you are taking it)Bradley is making a smart business move,and HBO is going to respect that fact..

By your logic GBP would/should want to sign Bradley to a deal,do you believe this to be true??

Here is a good answer for you!!

Names become bigger=want to fight bigger names. You never know if Khan moves up to WW and wants to fight bigger guys like Mayweather[who he's been talking about for 2 years now], Ortiz, Berto, Mosley. And Bradley who can't draw flies to a dumpster, will be left in the outside looking in. And you don't know if Bradley just wants 1 fight in between so I don't know what you're saying this 1 fight for, Bradley is probably planning on waiting 12-2 years more to fight Khan which by that time, Khan would be either way better and a bigger name than he is now and Bradley a no name, or Khan would have been knocked out again and his stock dropped, and Bradley could lose as well.

This will look like Mosley-Mayweather. Mayweather calls out Mosley twice, once at 135, another time at 147. Mosley decided to ask an unrealistic $10Million dollars, come up with excuses like he's going on vacation, and then that his tooth hurts. Then Mayweather became bigger, so much bigger than Mosley, and Mosley's stock had dropped and just wanted a big pay day that Mayweather rightfully didn't want to give him, it's an eye for an eye. Bradley is turning down Khan now, I will be 100% backing up Khan if in the future he decides to turn down Bradley. Bradley ain't a star, he's not a big name, no one knows who he is outside of hardcore boxing fans. But he has the chance to be the absolute best at 140 and start from there, and he's turning that down.

[bojangles1987]

I'm sorry but Gary Shaw sucks.

The only thing he's doing here is trying to do damage control for himself. The obvious reason that Bradley is not fighting Khan right now IS Gary Shaw.

Bradley doesn't want to fight under Gary Shaw again, period point blank. Would you want a promoter like him who talks **** about you while your still under contract and promotes HIMSELF more than you? Perhaps if Shaw spent more time acutally PROMOTING Bradley instead of himself, he wouldn't be having this problem right now. Gary is acting like a spoiled child who didn't get his way.

Gary ran out of time (contract ends next month) and he couldn't convince or blackmail Bradley in to fighting again for him. Shaw is desperate, and it shows in him bashing his own fighter while he's still under contract with him. Atleast Bradley is respectful enough not to be talking **** about Shaw right now. I'm sure he's got a few choice things he'd like to say too, but he's mature enough to know what's best for the time being.

Let the Khan fans call Bradley a b*tch all they want, I don't blame them. But Shaw is clearly the reason the Khan fight hasn't been signed. He wouldn't be talking so much trash about Bradley if that wasn't the case.

[bojangles1987]

He could still fight Khan under Shaw... He's not going to make more money simply because he's with another promoter. It's not like he is stuck with Shaw if he fights one more time under him.. There's absolutely no reason that Bradley should not have taken this fight. He was going to make a career payday for him over 2mil+ after UK PPV's. The only reason is he doesn't think he can win.. Simple as that. He pretty much said it himself. "What if I lose" Did he not say that?

Yes he would be stuck with Shaw. Shaw wouldn't make the Alexander fight unless Bradley signed an extension, and I'm sure he's doing the same thing again.

[DET. IRONSIDE]

Yes he would be stuck with Shaw. Shaw wouldn't make the Alexander fight unless Bradley signed an extension, and I'm sure he's doing the same thing again.

Guess what? I'm a Khan fan and I agree and understand the situation. Which is why I made the post below...trying to get the thread onto a "whats gonna happen with Timmy?" tack

Truthfully, I think the talk between TR and GBP about working on things for the future is all about making sure Khan-Bradley happens...or Arum's way of enticing Bradley to TR that bit more.

The thing is it also gives Bradley more reason to go to GBP cos not only does he get guaranteed Khan. He is guaranteed Ortiz and others PLUS there is a possible sit-down with TR to fight Pac.

I can't see Pac signing a fight with Bradley because of how close he and Khan are. They respect each others space currently. That could all change but thats the way I see it.

Brad could sign for either bunch and be cool but if I was him I'd sign with GBP for the extra autonomy.

So what do you think's gonna happen with Timmy?

[Rome-By-Ko]

Names become bigger=want to fight bigger names. You never know if Khan moves up to WW and wants to fight bigger guys like Mayweather[who he's been talking about for 2 years now], Ortiz, Berto, Mosley. And Bradley who can't draw flies to a dumpster, will be left in the outside looking in. And you don't know if Bradley just wants 1 fight in between so I don't know what you're saying this 1 fight for, Bradley is probably planning on waiting 12-2 years more to fight Khan which by that time, Khan would be either way better and a bigger name than he is now and Bradley a no name, or Khan would have been knocked out again and his stock dropped, and Bradley could lose as well.

This will look like Mosley-Mayweather. Mayweather calls out Mosley twice, once at 135, another time at 147. Mosley decided to ask an unrealistic $10Million dollars, come up with excuses like he's going on vacation, and then that his tooth hurts. Then Mayweather became bigger, so much bigger than Mosley, and Mosley's stock had dropped and just wanted a big pay day that Mayweather rightfully didn't want to give him, it's an eye for an eye. Bradley is turning down Khan now, I will be 100% backing up Khan if in the future he decides to turn down Bradley. Bradley ain't a star, he's not a big name, no one knows who he is outside of hardcore boxing fans. But he has the chance to be the absolute best at 140 and start from there, and he's turning that down.

So your saying Bradley is wrong for doing the same exact thing Khan just got finish doing himself??

You are also saying Khan will move up next fight(truly doubt this)to fight who Ortiz(not getting a fight with May sorry)??That's not happening..Even if Khan beats Judah there will be tons of questions,because all tho Zab would be a big name on his resume he would still not fought the best in his div..I keep telling you This fight is a must for both men moving forward..

Once again this fight is not the right timing for Bradley,Khan is good he fought a throw away fight with Mcflurry to end his contract and is now willing to fight Bradley because if he loses Khan will be good he is signed up for more fights on HBO..But you seem to think it's wrong for Bradley to get the same thing going into the biggest fight of his career??Dude wake up don't be fooled I totally understand you wanna see this fight but put ya business hat on for a sec and think..Which would you try to do in the same situation??

[bojangles1987]

Guess what? I'm a Khan fan and I agree and understand the situation. Which is why I made the post below...trying to get the thread onto a "whats gonna happen with Timmy?" tack



So what do you think's gonna happen with Timmy?

I'm really worried Arum has sold Bradley on getting a Pacquiao fight, for no reason other than to keep him away from Golden Boy. I'm hoping Bradley doesn't go to Top Rank, because he will never fight Khan while he's there.