Comments Thread For: Pacquiao-Marquez Tour To Start in Manila, End in Mexico

[Rapid Counter]

Hey, at least Pac makes the original contracted weight unlike another lb-for-lb fighter currently on vacation-no-wait-look-at-me-ok-i'm-back-on-vacation.

Manny has also failed to make the contracted weight on two occasions.

[komandante]

marquez is old and they weight gained him. great fight again pacquiao. if you knock marquez out the fans will boo even more. pacquiao you need floyd mayweather instead of these old and shot fighters you've been. cherry picking. get ready for more boooooooooooooz.

just get your boy Floyd to come out and fight Manny. I was at the last fight and the fans booed Mosley and not Pacquiao. Have you been to a live fight guess not so shut up.

[LeadUppercut]

Hey, at least Pac makes the original contracted weight unlike another lb-for-lb fighter currently on vacation-no-wait-look-at-me-ok-i'm-back-on-vacation.

What, in the 145 division? or did you mean the 150 division?

[LeadUppercut]

Yeah, and when was the last time your action hero fought a live dog?

Pretty Vacation Boy Jr's last 7 fights in comparison:

Shane Mosley -- inactive over a year; aged and not sharp
Juan Manuel Marquez -- much smaller; mwj did not make original contracted weight
Ricky Hatton -- known to continuously poison himself with junk food; little boxing skills; fought over natural weight class
Oscar De La Hoya -- faded and shopworn
Carlos Manuel Baldomir -- faded slow ass mofo
Zab Judah -- beat by faded slow ass mofo
Sharmba Mitchell -- zzzzz

Firstly, I do not accept that you answer a question directed toward Pacquiao, by saying "but Floyd.....".
a.) I dont care about Mayflower, he is not active
b.) why should Pac be judged by the standards of another man ?
c.) how do Mayflowers actions get Manny off the hook ?

Secondly, this was posted on the other thread a few minutes ago.....

2 years ago the top 4 ranked ring ww were....

mosley, margarito, cotto and clottey, in 2 years he has taken out the best while floyd has only taken out one

That is absolute rubbish.....

Clottey and Margarito were not top 4, you are nuts if you think that either of those bums were better than Mayweather, Pac, Mosley, Cotto.

Neither of those bums were good fighters, both continually underachieved, both continually fell short, and both were well on their way out when the "timing" was right for Pacquiao to fight them.

Cotto was a cracked egg and highly vulnerable, Pac's " timing " was impeccable, yet AGAIN. And Manny ducked Mosley twice when he was the #1 welter, and only decided to fight him once it became obvious that Shane was shot and could no longer pull the trigger..... yet AGAIN, Pac's timing was impeccable.

Not one of those fighters were ranked top 3 when the " timing " was right for Pac to fight them, in fact..... only two of those fights were even at welterweight.

Interestingly, Manny has only ever fought TWO welterweights at 147, one was a bum and the other was an old man, the highest was ranked #4..... and he was the old man

Mayweather technically fought three #1 welter's, two definite with Baldomir and Mosley, and one arguable in Judah.

Once again, Pac's numbers dont stack up...... and once again, your numbers dont stack up either.

How come you guys make stuff up ?

the facts speak for themselves

Yes, they do.

FACT: Pacquiao has only EVER fought 2 welterweights at 147, old man Mosley and Josh "the punching bag" Clottey.....the best ranked was Mosley at #4.

FACT: Mayflower has only EVER fought 3 welterweights at 147, two were ranked #1 and the other was ranked #2.

[LeadUppercut]

you are an ignorant fool that's full of ****, you Bozo. Just shut your stinking ****y mouth and put back jmm's pencil d1ck back in your mouth..! clown like you should put back rat hole where you belong..pathethic loser!

Hi. Welcome buddy, and wow, what a terrificly enlightening first-up post

[Brooklyn Iceman]

Komandante, your reply has nothing to do with what I just poste

..I was responding to your fellow moron, leadupper****'s posting. So, before you even respond to a thread, be sure to read it first. Your response to me, was all about you!

your post are all non sense and mostly excuses only, prove that you adore the fraud Teddy Atlas isn't it moron.

[DominiBox]

I think that is a totally absurd thing to say..... RIDICULOUS, in fact.

Martinez, Bradley, Ward, Hopkins, Froch, ALL have a better recent resume than Pacquiao..... even my boy Mares outdoes Pac with Perez, Vic, then Agbeko.

Manny Pacquiao's last 7 opponents.....

Lately, a number of observers have commented that all of Manny Pacquiao's recent opponents have either been old, faded, or inept. Let's take a closer look at Pac's recent fights, and see if there is any truth to that allegation.....

Accusations leveled at Pacquiao include.....

* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Let's apply that criteria to Manny's last 7 opponents, and see how they stack up.

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David Diaz - Not a top fighter, faded, disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Oscar De La Hoya - Shot, drained, and shrink-wrapped.....
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Ricky Hatton - Not a top fighter, faded, and disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Miguel Angel Cotto - Badly faded / shopworn, and disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Joshua Clottey - Not a top fighter, and strangely innocuous.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Antonio Margarito - Not a top fighter, faded, disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Shane Mosley - Faded, shopworn, and disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

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All-in-all, that is a damn shabby line-up for a supposed P4P fighter, especially when you consider all of the advantages afforded to Pac during those fights..... e.g. fighting for a vacant JMW title, at catch-weight, against a BUM, and using 8oz gloves

Now, I can understand a top fighter taking the odd bout against a lesser opponent.....
but EVERY opponent in your last 7 fights?

How fkn lame is that ?

The last time Pacquiao fought a live dog was Marquez II, and according to a significant number of trainers/fighters/journalists/analysts..... HE LOST!!

SUMMARY: There is no question that Manny Pacquiao is a very carefully manufactured fighter with a padded resume'.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Same comment in every post.

Yo really need to work in something new ***** !!

[Brooklyn Iceman]

you like it huh? thank you for the warm welcome.. now **** off fan boy! too many bozo'z here, looks like, I am gonna have a good time here..

Hi. Welcome buddy, and wow, what a terrificly enlightening first-up post

[DominiBox]

Exactly, Dominidiot completely made that up, what a clown that kid is

Hey a$$hole.... this are FACTS, this is not speculation... that's what you always miss !!

"Mayweather Jr Penalized $600,000"

http://hubpages.com/hub/Mayweather-P...its-to-Marquez

"Mayweather to pay $600,000 for heavy weigh-in"

http://www.badlefthook.com/2009/9/18/1037181/mayweather-to-pay-600000-for-heavy

"Mayweather loses $300K per pound"

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4485941

WIKIPEDIA:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Mayweather_vs._Juan_Manuel_Marquez

"Juan Manuel Márquez made a guaranteed $3.2 million, as well as an additional $600,000 due to Floyd Mayweather, Jr. coming in two pounds over the 144 lbs weight limit. Floyd Mayweather earned $10.0 million."

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Owned....over and over !!!

[WESS]

lol....how could therr be a title when floyd did'nt have none and sure as hell jmm had non at ww.......

what do you think jmm's fightnight weight at ww? given even at lw he weighed at 145...and w watching jmm fight at ww is shyt and seeing pac want him at ww is shyt.

What do you think pac's ww weiht when his highest weiht at that was 148?......please explain!

Point was that titles don't mean shyt. Pac winning a jmw title vs a WW cheater at jmw don't mean shyt. JMM fighting for a WW title when he hasn't even competed at jww is shyt.

So the weight come fight night is now what we base weight divisions on now?

So by what your saying you would agree that Pac hand selects certain fighters at certain weight clasesses at certain weights?