Comments Thread For: Arum: Gesta Back on July 9, Vazquez Shot in The Future

[komandante]

That's really just a matter of opinion whereas numbers don't lie and the number of Mexican all-time champions and HOF's, undoubtedly substantiates that Mexico>Philippines in boxing.

It's like this; Panama may have a greater boxer than any of the Mexican boxers to ever lace them up but who's enjoyed a richer boxing history? What country is currently enjoying more of a boxing success? Greats from other countries will come and go but which country will enjoy success at the world stage on a consistent basis?

Mexico has veteran champs still performing at a world-class level that may be on their way out. They have solid champions that have years left to defend or capture more belts and Mexico has many solid prospects that will be their successors after they are gone. Can the Philippines say the same after Pac and Donaire are gone? What if Pac retires next tear and Donaire gets brutally koed into journeyman status, who will the Philippines have then?

When Marquez retires will be many boxers for Mexicans to chose from. When Montiel got koed we had a wave of capable Mexicans that won multiple belts in foreign lands. Mexico has some promising prospects in the lower weights and in the higher weights. So who do you think enjoys more success in boxing?

Philippines still have undefeated fighters like Mercito Gesta, Drian Francisco, Milan Melindo not to mention exciting fighters Rodel Mayol, Donnie Nietes. Pacquiao and Donaire will still rule against Mexicans for a long time..I like Mex boxers though.

[Hiei]

World Cup of boxing sponsored by GBP, Mexico v Philippines, 5-1 Philippines.

Mexico has the most boxing champs

Philippines 30 something

[Hiei]

Philippines still have undefeated fighters like Mercito Gesta, Drian Francisco, Milan Melindo not to mention exciting fighters Rodel Mayol, Donnie Nietes. Pacquiao and Donaire will still rule against Mexicans for a long time..I like Mex boxers though.

correction francisco lost to some thai dude

[loui_ludwig]

Gesta needs to step up in opponents.

[-ELO-]

World Cup of boxing sponsored by GBP, Mexico v Philippines, 5-1 Philippines.

Luevano>Bernabe Concepcion
Solis>Rodel Mayol
Ponce De Leon>Gerry Penalosa
Morales>Manny Pacquiao
Arce/Segura>JJuanito Rubillar
J Marquez>Jimrex Jaca
Diaz>Randy Suico
Garcia>Florante Condes
Segura>Sonny Boy Jaro
Solis>Glenn Donaire
Sanchez>Nonito Donaire
Sosa>Brian Viloria
Ponce De Leon>Rey Bautista
Lopez>Alla Villamor
Lopez>Andy Tabanas
Lopez>Manny Melchor
Lopez>Pretty Boy Lucas
Cob Castro>Rolando Pascua
Garcia>Luisito Espinosa
Montiel>Z Gorres
Miranda>Richie Mepranum
Hernandez>Denver Cuello
Garcia>Jhonriel Casimiero
Rosales>Mark Melligen
Uicab>Edrin Daupudong
Solis>Bert Batawang
Kid Azteca>Ceferino Garcia
Abner Mares> Diosbalo Gabi
Arce>Fernand Lumacad
Aguilar>Michael Farenas

World cup doesn't mean **** just a bunch of nobodies. But when you match up the best against the best you see the true result. Mexicans have beat the best the Philippines has had to offer, from past greats to modern greats to up and coming prospects and everything in between

[Hiei]

Luevano>Bernabe Concepcion
Solis>Rodel Mayol
Ponce De Leon>Gerry Penalosa
Morales>Manny Pacquiao
Arce/Segura>JJuanito Rubillar
J Marquez>Jimrex Jaca
Diaz>Randy Suico
Garcia>Florante Condes
Segura>Sonny Boy Jaro
Solis>Glenn Donaire
Sanchez>Nonito Donaire
Sosa>Brian Viloria
Ponce De Leon>Rey Bautista
Lopez>Alla Villamor
Lopez>Andy Tabanas
Lopez>Manny Melchor
Lopez>Pretty Boy Lucas
Cob Castro>Rolando Pascua
Garcia>Luisito Espinosa
Montiel>Z Gorres
Miranda>Richie Mepranum
Hernandez>Denver Cuello
Garcia>Jhonriel Casimiero
Rosales>Mark Melligen
Uicab>Edrin Daupudong
Solis>Bert Batawang
Kid Azteca>Ceferino Garcia
Abner Mares> Diosbalo Gabi
Arce>Fernand Lumacad
Aguilar>Michael Farenas

World cup doesn't mean **** just a bunch of nobodies. But when you match up the best against the best you see the true result. Mexicans have beat the best the Philippines has had to offer, from past greats to modern greats to up and coming prospects and everything in between

now only if you did the same vs the ricans

[puga]

Luevano>Bernabe Concepcion
Solis>Rodel Mayol
Ponce De Leon>Gerry Penalosa
Morales>Manny Pacquiao
Arce/Segura>JJuanito Rubillar
J Marquez>Jimrex Jaca
Diaz>Randy Suico
Garcia>Florante Condes
Segura>Sonny Boy Jaro
Solis>Glenn Donaire
Sanchez>Nonito Donaire
Sosa>Brian Viloria
Ponce De Leon>Rey Bautista
Lopez>Alla Villamor
Lopez>Andy Tabanas
Lopez>Manny Melchor
Lopez>Pretty Boy Lucas
Cob Castro>Rolando Pascua
Garcia>Luisito Espinosa
Montiel>Z Gorres
Miranda>Richie Mepranum
Hernandez>Denver Cuello
Garcia>Jhonriel Casimiero
Rosales>Mark Melligen
Uicab>Edrin Daupudong
Solis>Bert Batawang
Kid Azteca>Ceferino Garcia
Abner Mares> Diosbalo Gabi
Arce>Fernand Lumacad
Aguilar>Michael Farenas

World cup doesn't mean **** just a bunch of nobodies. But when you match up the best against the best you see the true result. Mexicans have beat the best the Philippines has had to offer, from past greats to modern greats to up and coming prospects and everything in between

cmon man...all of those pinoys have atleast beaten 5 mexican fighters....it's not fair way of doing things is all im sayin.....mexico is a bigger power house in boxing than the phillipipnes but pac is a fighter that mexicao never had....lets' not make it worse....

and for the idiot isla simio, PI has had more champs than 30...phil has more champs than any other latin country exept mexico and pr...

[-ELO-]

cmon man...all of those pinoys have atleast beaten 5 mexican fighters....it's not fair way of doing things is all im sayin.....mexico is a bigger power house in boxing than the phillipipnes but pac is a fighter that mexicao never had....lets' not make it worse....

and for the idiot isla simio, PI has had more champs than 30...phil has more champs than any other latin country exept mexico and pr...

Bro I admire and respect Filipino people inside and outside the ring. I am not trying to disrespect, discredit or disparage the Filipino boxing culture and history in any way. What I am doing is responding to idiots like Komandante and Republica with facts when they attack Mexican boxers and Mexican boxing in general.

I'm giving them a taste of their own medicine if you will but in a more respectful manner.

I recognize the greatness of Filipino boxing but some posters here fail to acknowledge the greatness of Mexican boxing and criticize it at any given chance.

Anyways, you are right about some of those boxers beating some Mexicans but I am simply trying to point out that Mexican boxers have competed and beaten even your greatest fighters whereas some of the greatest Mexican fighters have never been beaten by a Filipino fighter and the average Mexican champion is seldom defeated by a Pinoy fighter.

[Big Op]

cmon man...all of those pinoys have atleast beaten 5 mexican fighters....it's not fair way of doing things is all im sayin.....mexico is a bigger power house in boxing than the phillipipnes but pac is a fighter that mexicao never had....lets' not make it worse....

and for the idiot isla simio, PI has had more champs than 30...phil has more champs than any other latin country exept mexico and pr...

mexico has not had a great fighter like pac? c'mon jcc fought the best of the best and has the record for most defenses of a title.and if that is not enough roberto duran was half mexican and pac ain't even close to that level

[Alibata]

Bro I admire and respect Filipino people inside and outside the ring. I am not trying to disrespect, discredit or disparage the Filipino boxing culture and history in any way. What I am doing is responding to idiots like Komandante and Republica with facts when they attack Mexican boxers and Mexican boxing in general.

I'm giving them a taste of their own medicine if you will but in a more respectful manner.

I recognize the greatness of Filipino boxing but some posters here fail to acknowledge the greatness of Mexican boxing and criticize it at any given chance.

Anyways, you are right about some of those boxers beating some Mexicans but I am simply trying to point out that Mexican boxers have competed and beaten even your greatest fighters whereas some of the greatest Mexican fighters have never been beaten by a Filipino fighter and the average Mexican champion is seldom defeated by a Pinoy fighter.

werd up homie!!!! I do the same thing in response to Mexican posters who try to act all high and mighty. We know Mexico is the ****.. Don't have to put Pinoy boxing down... Mexico and Mexicans got no reason to feel insecure.. Pinoy fighters look up to Mexican fighters for the most part and try to be like Mexican warriors.. .