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  • Hiei
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    #21
    Originally posted by puga
    th **** you talking about...there is no fighter from argentina , or mexico that is greater than pac....none...mexico does have lots of champion tho but none comes close to pac in terms of greatness including chavez sr, your greatest...
    it's debatable Monzon>>>pac Chavez>>>pac... and i said even Arg has more hall of famers then the philippines....

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      #22
      Originally posted by IslaSimio
      it's debatable Monzon>>>pac Chavez>>>pac... and i said even Arg has more hall of famers then the philippines....
      no it aint....maybe between monzon and chavez..pac is above both ...and i dont think argentina had more champs than philippines either....

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        #23
        Originally posted by puga
        th **** you talking about...there is no fighter from argentina , or mexico that is greater than pac....none...mexico does have lots of champion tho but none comes close to pac in terms of greatness including chavez sr, your greatest...
        That's really just a matter of opinion whereas numbers don't lie and the number of Mexican all-time champions and HOF's, undoubtedly substantiates that Mexico>Philippines in boxing.

        It's like this; Panama may have a greater boxer than any of the Mexican boxers to ever lace them up but who's enjoyed a richer boxing history? What country is currently enjoying more of a boxing success? Greats from other countries will come and go but which country will enjoy success at the world stage on a consistent basis?

        Mexico has veteran champs still performing at a world-class level that may be on their way out. They have solid champions that have years left to defend or capture more belts and Mexico has many solid prospects that will be their successors after they are gone. Can the Philippines say the same after Pac and Donaire are gone? What if Pac retires next tear and Donaire gets brutally koed into journeyman status, who will the Philippines have then?

        When Marquez retires will be many boxers for Mexicans to chose from. When Montiel got koed we had a wave of capable Mexicans that won multiple belts in foreign lands. Mexico has some promising prospects in the lower weights and in the higher weights. So who do you think enjoys more success in boxing?

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          #24
          Originally posted by puga
          no it aint....maybe between monzon and chavez..pac is above both ...and i dont think argentina had more champs than philippines either....
          LOL you ain't even sure if Arg has more champs are not, do you even know who monzon is? oh and Duran is greater then any Mex or PR fighter but guess what? PR>>Panama, Mex>>panama so yeah it's not even a question who has superior fighters

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            #25
            Originally posted by -ELO-
            That's really just a matter of opinion whereas numbers don't lie and the number of Mexican all-time champions and HOF's, undoubtedly substantiates that Mexico>Philippines in boxing.

            It's like this; Panama may have a greater boxer than any of the Mexican boxers to ever lace them up but who's enjoyed a richer boxing history? What country is currently enjoying more of a boxing success? Greats from other countries will come and go but which country will enjoy success at the world stage on a consistent basis?

            Mexico has veteran champs still performing at a world-class level that may be on their way out. They have solid champions that have years left to defend or capture more belts and Mexico has many solid prospects that will be their successors after they are gone. Can the Philippines say the same after Pac and Donaire are gone? What if Pac retires next tear and Donaire gets brutally koed into journeyman status, who will the Philippines have then?

            When Marquez retires will be many boxers for Mexicans to chose from. When Montiel got koed we had a wave of capable Mexicans that won multiple belts in foreign lands. Mexico has some promising prospects in the lower weights and in the higher weights. So who do you think enjoys more success in boxing?
            ofcourse it's opinion but those opniona re based on what they accompished... true , mexico >>>>philippines in boxing country by country and it's not even close but it is also true that mexio never had a fighter like pac...pac is above everyone you have..

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              #26
              Originally posted by IslaSimio
              LOL you ain't even sure if Arg has more champs are not, do you even know who monzon is? oh and Duran is greater then any Mex or PR fighter but guess what? PR>>Panama, Mex>>panama so yeah it's not even a question who has superior fighters
              know monzon like i know pac?....hell no...but i know enoug to say what i said...prolly know more than you too...and i never said panama is >>>>mexico or pr....but like duran >>>>>any fighter you have

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                #27
                Originally posted by puga
                ofcourse it's opinion but those opniona re based on what they accompished... true , mexico >>>>philippines in boxing country by country and it's not even close but it is also true that mexio never had a fighter like pac...pac is above everyone you have..
                Mexico consistently produces great fighters while the Philippines have one of the top ten greatest fighters ever!!!!!

                Both countries should be proud of their fighters

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by puga
                  know monzon like i know pac?....hell no...but i know enoug to say what i said...prolly know more than you too...and i never said panama is >>>>mexico or pr....but like duran >>>>>any fighter you have
                  I already established that...

                  Mex>>pr>>>philipiines

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by -ELO-
                    Mexico consistently produces great fighters while the Philippines have one of the top ten greatest fighters ever!!!!!

                    Both countries should be proud of their fighters
                    agreed.....cheers mate!

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                      #30
                      World Cup of boxing sponsored by GBP, Mexico v Philippines, 5-1 Philippines.

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