manny versus jmm at 135 right now who wins

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  • vacon04
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    #61
    Originally posted by hypodermical
    the first 2 was war, and could've gone either way.
    everyone except the haters and the *****s know that pac improved his boxing skills since their last fight A LOT!

    Today's Pac convincingly beats Marquez at 135. (Prime Marquez would be a more competitive fight but still lose)

    The 144 limit is just mind games by Roach.
    Pac will only weigh 145 on fight night, JUST LIKE THEIR LAST FIGHT.
    JMM should not moronically try to beef up to 144.
    Of course not, but Marquez is still going to be a little heavier than in his last fights. People will say "but at the fight night they will weight the same" and "In his last fight he was the same as Pacquiao" ... Well yes he was the same weight, but he was not strong as Manny.

    Why not?

    Well Manny is now a WW, but unlike the regular WW, he tops at about 145 pounds. What does this mean? That he has no need to dehydrate, so he has the capacity to pack on some more muscle mass and not so much water.

    What about Marquez? He had the same muscle mass against Katsidis than Pacquiao? No, he has a few less pounds of muscle and more water in his body. So even if they were 144 in their last fights, their body composition was way different.

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      #62
      Originally posted by sdcluser
      Let say we do it at 135 and JMM loses in a close fight. What does that prove since one can argue JMM is like 38 now? Would Pac have to KO and stop JMM say 8th at this point at 135?
      How about fighting a young prime top WW? That would satisfy me.

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      • sdcluser
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        #63
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        How about fighting a young prime top WW? That would satisfy me.
        I would like to see Ortiz but that ain't happening.
        Bradley moving up?

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        • MaD RoBoT
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          #64
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          How about fighting a young prime top WW? That would satisfy me.
          ditto

          even at 135, JMM would take a beating if he performs just like the Katsidis fight

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          • Larry the boss
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            #65
            damn viperz007 is really a *******............lol

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            • Eaner0919
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              #66
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              I'm not so sure if Pac would be drained at 135.

              And, at 144 is not an even fight for both. But, whatever.
              I have a tendency to think that people who follow certain fighters only pick up what benefits them in debates such as this

              for example

              there is not a single person on here who mentions that on FC360 Manny's own personal chef stated that a week before fighting Mosley, Manny was at 141-142 yet somehow someway Manny is comfy at 144

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                #67
                Old JMM vs Weightdrained Pac? I'd say Pac takes it

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                • Larry the boss
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                  #68
                  ok..how can manny be drained at 135??yet posters say hes a natural 140 fighter??wtf??come on man keep your bull**** together

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                  • gapo
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                    #69
                    I think marques takes it. Pacquiao has a history of getting weak if he had to drain himself before a fight. And the last one was against morales.

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                    • Dagomba
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                      #70
                      Can anyone please explain to me how Pacquiao would be drained at 135? Considering his diet, the fact that he eats well before weigh in and being around 142 pounds a week before a welterweight fight.

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