Why do people act like Martinez is the first jmw/mw to call out a ww?

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  • AllEyesOpen
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    #21
    Originally posted by Walt Liquor
    I'm not saying its right or wring dummy.

    Just pointing out flaws in the TS' ridiculous argument that it's normal. So what? Manny is the cash cow, any normal individual would expect everyone within 2 weight classes to be calling him out, but you can't make such simplistic statements and not be accurate at least.

    Manny doesn't need an excuse not to fight sergio. If he doesn't want to, we all understand why. Just like Floyd isn't about to step up to that fight.
    Why is my argument crazy when you said exactly what i did, I'm not saying Pac should take the challenge, it wouldn't make sense. What i am saying is that Pac won a title at 154 so there should be no problem in anyone able to make that weight calling him out. Like i said, simple.

    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    Its not that he isnt the first, but its hypocritical of him to beg for a pac or wifebeater fight when he himself is unwilling to fight big money fights at super mw.
    What big money fights at 167+ would come close to a May/Pac fight at 154? I honestly believe that if the biggest names in boxing were at smw or higher i think Martinez would take a shot at them too if he was able to.

    Originally posted by BoxeoBoriqua
    I'm not bias at all. Just wouldn't wanna hear Martinez say he is too small for a bigger guy if a good offer was made by a Super Middleweight or Light Heavyweight.
    I feel you but the difference there is that Martinez has reached his limit and has never fought above 160 lbs. Now let's say Martinez won a paper title from let's say Taylor at 167 lbs then refused to fight B-Hop or Bute because he was too small even though both were willing to make the smw limit it would be a bit hypocritical.

    Again, I'm not saying Pac should be fighting Martinez but i don't see why it's such a big deal for a career jmw to call out a title holder in that division

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    • Steak
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      #22
      of course Martinez wants the big money fights. those fights are some of the biggest fights that can happen in boxing.

      Pacquiao and Mayweather fans have turned into little defensive *****es lately.

      that being said, I would like to see Martinez fight some of the top guys at 168 if he cant get those fights.

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      • Khalid X
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        #23
        Here are some fun facts

        1. Martinez claims Manny fights no hopers, yet Sergio was trying to fight Andy Lee, Chavez Jr., and Manfredo

        2. Martinez is calling out Manny. Nothing wrong with that but It's kinda funny that he expects Manny to give up 20lbs to him, yet he can't give up 10-12lbs to Lucian Bute, Andre Ward, Carl Froch etc

        3. Martinez claims Manny fights fighters who are past it. I'm curious as to if he think Cotto is past it and if so why is he fighting him. I say this because if Margarito and Shane are shot/past their prime...then surely Cotto is as all of those guys are on the same level.

        4. Martinez is blasted Manny for taking money fights, but what is Sergio doing by calling out Pacquiao instead of facing Pirog, Sturm or other fighters around his weight class.

        With that said, I have no issues with him wanting a Pacquiao fight, but I do find alot of his behavior "hypocritical".

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