Sweet Pee was the same size as Manny

[jrosales13]

11 out of 24 round is what jmm won......and thats being genoerous to jmm.....

JMM won at least 13 out of the 24.

However, knockdowns count. Him winning 13 rounds, yes he won most of the rounds. But, getting dropped 4 times makes him lose the fight.

I never understood why some people claim is a robbery. Because, it's not at least JMM got a draw out of it. I thought he lost both fights by a point.

[Roja's480]

I had Pac winning both fights by a point.

First fight 113-112 Pac- yes JMM won more rounds but knockdowns count.

Second fight 114-113 Pac- I thought each won 6 rounds but again knockdown counts

If JMM could have stayed up right, their records against each other would be reverse

Much credit goes to Pac for beating JMM.

wtf were u watching i got 9 first fight, second 7

[F l i c k e r]

It's obvious that Pacquiao won't fight him because he has a LIVE body. Pacquiao won't fight anyone who is a legit threat anymore. The last legit fight he had was Marquez 2.

Even Teddy Atlas said it, "hatton made to order, Oscar dead at weight, Cotto damaged mentally and physically, Clottey wouldn't fight back, Mosley old and shot, Margarito dead at weight"

[jrosales13]

Martinez isnt too big. Hes too good.

Would you think Martinez was still "too good" if he was 5'5 with a 67" reach?

Because, if he was that size. I would have no problem picking Pac to stop his ass.

Yes Martinez is good, Martinez has skills and style to beat Pac but lets not get twisted Martinez also has size that you would have to make him a big favorite to beat Pac. Take away that size though and Martinez trying to fight Pac with his hands lost...It would be a short night for Martinez.

[jrosales13]

It's obvious that Pacquiao won't fight him because he has a LIVE body. Pacquiao won't fight anyone who is a legit threat anymore. The last legit fight he had was Marquez 2.

Even Teddy Atlas said it, "hatton made to order, Oscar dead at weight, Cotto damaged mentally and physically, Clottey wouldn't fight back, Mosley old and shot, Margarito dead at weight"

OMG "Even Teddy Atlas said it." Well fuck, what else is there to debate any longer? Teddy Atlas has spoken.

WTF?



My goodness

[jrosales13]

wtf were u watching i got 9 first fight, second 7

I was actually watching the fight.

WTF were you watching?

[puga]

JMM won at least 13 out of the 24.

However, knockdowns count. Him winning 13 rounds, yes he won most of the rounds. But, getting dropped 4 times makes him lose the fight.

I never understood why some people claim is a robbery. Because, it's not at least JMM got a draw out of it. I thought he lost both fights by a point.

to you....tome he won 11 similar to harold lederman's card....

[jrosales13]

Where is Body Movin at? So he can see how idiotic the TS is. And, the reason why his dumbass threads keep getting deleted.

[jrosales13]

to you....tome he won 11 similar to harold lederman's card....

That's crazy man but OK.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Would you think Martinez was still "too good" if he was 5'5 with a 67" reach?

Because, if he was that size. I would have no problem picking Pac to stop his ass.

Yes Martinez is good, Martinez has skills and style to beat Pac but lets not get twisted Martinez also has size that you would have to make him a big favorite to beat Pac. Take away that size though and Martinez trying to fight Pac with his hands lost...It would be a short night for Martinez.

Well take a way Pacs power and speed and hed be nothing. Same thing. Martinez is a big guy it is what it is. We cant take away his height. Weve seen Pac beat bigger guys.


Margarito: Martinez:

5-11 5-10

"73 inch reach "75 inch reach


Also fight night weight would be about the same.

Boxing doesnt have height and reach classes. Pac has had disadvantages in fights before and won. So I cant buy Top Ranks excuse that hes too big. Its that he is too skilled. Chavez is big too at 6-0, with 73 inch reach and Pac would absolutely body him at any weight.

Its not about the weight its about the skills and style of the fighter imo.