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Sergio, he does want mayweather aswel....is he still picking people who are old and past it and near the end of their careers... ?
If mayweather agreed without the testing (im not saying he should have just stating) the fight would have most probably happened...
Sergio knows pac likes a challenge and hes just trying to bait him out....
Sergio, go pick on people bigger than you and we will see how you fair....go fight Bhop or some1 haha
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Originally posted by BoxingFollower View PostWhy don't you guys just admit it, your guys know Sergio would destroy Manny, your reasoning isn't because Sergio is bigger because Margarito made Manny look like a midget.
Your reasoning is because Martinez isn't shot, old, or slow.
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Originally posted by Clint650 View Posti dont see what the big deal is.
1. there is no one at 147 besides Berto, Ortiz and Mayweather for Pac.
2. Any decent fighter below 147 would have to gain weight to meet Pac, he will not go under 145.
3. Pac fought Margo for a belt at JMW, a title that became his #8 weight division
4. Segio can make JMW
5. Mayweather needs to return to the ring and settle this once and for all
6. team pac needs to stop making excuses anout random testing
7. Martinez vs Floyd is almost, if not, more interesting than Floyd vs Pac
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for those who keep mentioning that martinez should look upward for a challenge (i.e. SMW), seems to forget one little detail. Martinez is looking for a a big fat paycheck, the guy is 36, and he ain't getting any younger and just wants to cash in as soon as possible.
Show me a fighter in the SMW that would guarantee him at 5mill and ill call you a liar, there are three cashcows in the business (Floyd, Manny, and Cotto), you can't blame the guy from trying.
I'm pretty certain that if there was a person capable of guaranteeing a figure north of 5mill, he would move up. Maybe next year, after the the winner of super6 vs Bute emerges.
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Originally posted by tlarry View PostMartinez, like so many others is spouting off sour g****s in order to get a Pacquiao-size payday! Give me a break, he'd love to lure a Pacquiao up to fight him. Fight night Martinez would weigh 170-175lbs, 30lbs more than Pacquiao! How would that be fair or competitive? Since Pacquiao is the payday, then have Martinez dry out and come down to 145lbs. That's not going to happen either. And Mayweather won't fight anyone. So shut up Martinez. You want a fight, a big payday? Then YOU step up and go fight Bernard Hopkins! Better yet, go fight Vitali Klitschko!
Martinez right now can only get as low at 154 pounds. If you see his fight with Williams I, and then Kelly Pavlik, you'll see that Maravilla is not as muscular as he is right now. I remember that when I saw Martinez-Williams II I thought "Man he is stronger than in his previous fight against Pavlik".
Stronger, not heavier as it's not the same thing. He was about the same weight when he fought against Pavlik, but it seemed to me that he had more muscle mass at a lower body fat %.
So for people that keep saying "Margarito could do 150, why Martinez can´t do it" well, Martinez at the moment has more muscle mass than Margarito, they have different body types. Margarito is taller and leaner, while Martinez is not so tall, but more muscular.
And why are people still talking about 150 pounds as a limit? That's not a weight division, forget that crap. The LMW division is 154 pounds, so if you want to fight in the LMW then fight against guys who are 154 pounds.
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I know this is asking too much from Sergio, but i'd like to see him move up to 168 against Ward, Dirrell, Froch, Abraham, Kessler and Bute.
168 is asking for too much though, because he started at 147. Usually you would see this from some one who started at 154.
Take Trinidad for example, look at his unsuccessful fight against a shot Jones at 175. He for the most part started as a WW.
A WW can only go up to 160 if we're talking about optimal prime weight, that's their limit, sure there's been a couple to go up higher pounds than that but did they stay looking as their best? If you can go up more than that, then you are a very special fighter or you'll need to roid up or be on some kind of special work out to carry the weight better, or you were always just a big WW to begin with.
Plus the competition between those weights get so much better and bigger, unlike the lower weights, where there's a weight class at 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112-130 etc Every pound is a weight and there's hardly any difference in size of the fighters until probably like 122[i'm exaggerating a bit]. Basically the moving up in class starts getting more difficult at 130-135-140-147-154-160-168 etc, because the disparity in weight is no longer just 1-2lbs from your last weight class.
But with that said, i'd like to see Sergio test himself at 168 vs a limited fighter like Andrade or Miranda, and if he feels the weight is too much then just go back down to 160 but at least test yourself.
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