NFL unlike Boxing strongly considering using WADA testing going forward...

[ThePrince]

What you saying is not whats being discussed now...

"Dr. Gary Wadler, who has worked closely with both the World Anti-Doping Agency and White House Office of Natural Drug Control Policy, lauded the league's decision to make HGH testing mandatory as part of its labor proposal to the NFL Players Association. Wadler also said any protests from athletes about the blood work required to conduct the test "border on the nonsensical."

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/hgh-testing-by-nfl-makes-sense-to-doping-expert-032611

and in Professional sports it all goes hand in hand...

"In professional boxing, the proposed mega-bout between Manny Pacquaio and Floyd Mayweather Jr. has been derailed over the former's failure to submit to random and strict drug-testing standards beyond what is already required by the sport's sanctioning body in Nevada. Pacquaio's trainer, Freddie Roach, has said his fighter is willing to comply with the request. But Roach also says he will respect Pacquiao's reluctance to have his blood drawn 48 hours before a proposed fight for HGH testing."

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/N...one-HGH-032411

My dude, you can post all the articles from random people all you want. Doesn't change the fact that the NFL Players' Association will never approve of blood testing of their athletes no matter how 'nonsensical' some guy thinks it is, so it is a pointless argument. The NFL has been bringing it up for years and for years the NFLPA has told the league to go **** themselves, and they have. A lockout changes nothing. Without the NFLPA's consent, no blood tests. Simple as that.

But again... this has nothing at all to do with Boxing. The NSAC invited WADA to make a case for their testing protocols to be integrated into their program and the commission didn't see a need to adopt the 'gold standard'. That's it.

But apparently the Boxing commission is a powerless figurehead entity and fighters are free to play commissioner and make up rules and change them as they see fit, so they're free to do WADA testing or any other agencies program if they choose.

This is as irrelevant a thread as there has ever been.

[Eastbay Giant]

Yea because they have been getting tested so much with OST.... their tests are no different then the Nsac tests for boxers

Its obvious that the only reason you talk about NSAC is because that the only place a Pac-Floyd fight would take....how many of the "big profile fights" have been in NSAC so far?. You're taking another hit on Pac and testing you're not fooling anyone you pansy

You're the only one showing ignorence

Last time I checked, the Pacquiao camp had a list of boxers they've fought with Never next to Mayweathers name. I don't know what else to tell you, other than the fact that I'm not the one to encourage juiceheads competing in contact sports. Pacquiao ain't Tiger Woods, and this ain't even golf you momo. I'm not a barbarian like you giving athlete voluntary passes.

Golf will have testing before boxing because of dudes like you...

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-05-16/sports/29566861_1_hgh-testing-anti-doping-world-tiger-woods

You wonder why casual fans say boxing is dying, because Boxing and it fans never set the precedence on anything. Always negative press, that you love to support.

[Rockin']

If you play in the NFL your going to get tested, and if you think different then your a d@mn fool. I like how you try to downplay the whole issue without addressing my question, and your comments just goes to show the rest of us how ignorant some of you fans can be. The Nevada State Athletic Commission isn't the whole world, and try reading my post before you write some baseless **** because it is the site of the majority high profile fights and is relevant to my thread.

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I don't know what you're getting so upset about, the guys remarks are not off base. The NFL could easily have everybody drug tested who competes in their leauge. They easily have the income in a multi billion dollar league. If boxing was controlled by one governing body it could be possible to test each fighter but boxing is broken into 100's if not thousands of different segments each working to benefiet only themselves, not neccesarily the sport. So lets say that the NSAC started mandatory testing, it would just mean that the fighters who are dirty would stay clear of the state and fight elsewhere. Say the #1 PFP fighter in the world is dirty, he has many different avenues that he could travel to make his millions. I agree with the guys statement that mandatory drug testing for all fights will not happen. I was drug tested for my first bout at the Palace. After that they just assume that since you were clean then that you must be clean now. I'm in the game, not just some spectator with an opinion.....Rockin'

[Pullcounter]

"NFL senior vice president Adolpho Birch confirmed Tuesday the league is considering an outside company to conduct testing. As first reported by The New York Times, one of those potential firms is the World Anti-Doping Agency that handles drug testing for the Olympic games."

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFL-drug-testing-program-could-use-outside-company-WADA-052411

If the NFL follows through and commits to using WADA testing going forward, how long will it be before the NSAC follow suit? If the NSAC decides not to adapt blood testing for PED's at the very least for all high profile Championship fights, will it create a black-eye for the sport...

take the test hopkins

[Eastbay Giant]

My dude, you can post all the articles from random people all you want. Doesn't change the fact that the NFL Players' Association will never approve of blood testing of their athletes no matter how 'nonsensical' some guy thinks it is, so it is a pointless argument. The NFL has been bringing it up for years and for years the NFLPA has told the league to go **** themselves, and they have. A lockout changes nothing. Without the NFLPA's consent, no blood tests. Simple as that.

But again... this has nothing at all to do with Boxing. The NSAC invited WADA to make a case for their testing protocols to be integrated into their program and the commission didn't see a need to adopt the 'gold standard'. That's it.

But apparently the Boxing commission is a powerless figurehead entity and fighters are free to play commissioner and make up rules and change them as they see fit, so they're free to do WADA testing or any other agencies program if they choose.

This is as irrelevant a thread as there has ever been.

The Owners locked the players out, this isn't a strike homeboy. You may THINK blood testing isn't a issue, but it is a HUGE liability issue to owners. If you don't support better testing professional sports then say that, because if there is guides line that are being enforced but can knowingly be ignored broken then what's the point. If the goal of testing Athletes is to promote fair competition, but we don't care about that anymore, then why test...

[Eastbay Giant]

So there is no NFL, then why are you making a thread about and imaginary league called the "NFL"



I just laugh a people like you that cant let go that nobodies gonna force Pac to take OST, nobody

League locks out players after union decertifies

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81eb6e46/article/league-locks-out-players-after-union-decertifies

Why do you keep bringing up Pacquiao and talking as if there is a NFL Union? He already tainted his own legacy with his actions but that doesn't mean the sport can't move forward. He can retire and never take the test, but there is a lot of people who feel like I feel, and that the drug testing is inadequate. Your arguing Pacquiao, I'm telling you if the sport don't start making changes, after Pacquiao and Mayweather it's gonna become a novelty.

[ThePrince]

The Owners locked the players out, this isn't a strike homeboy. You may THINK blood testing isn't a issue, but it is a HUGE liability issue to owners. If you don't support better testing professional sports then say that, because if there is guides line that are being enforced but can knowingly be ignored broken then what's the point. If the goal of testing Athletes is to promote fair competition, but we don't care about that anymore, then why test...

The lockout has to do with profit sharing and player contracts, HGH testing is just a side measure brought up by Goodell as a distraction of the real issues... which is $ plain and simple. The lockout will not rest on HGH testing, and the NFLPA will never agree to blood testing, the NFL knows that.

And I'm all for better testing, but just because Floyd says it's better testing doesn't mean that it is. Story just came out on 60 minutes on Sunday that Lance Armstrong was blood doping and using EPO, all while being randomly tested under WADA protocols (with one failed test being possibly covered up by the agency and the cycling association). There is no current reliable test for HGH through blood, that's a well known fact to even WADA. That's why THEY funded the HGH urine test, because they are well aware that the current test is questionable at best.

So when they make the new urine test that can detect the substance for up to 2 weeks, then that would be better testing and I'm sure all agencies, commissions, unions, and players' associations will incorporate it into their program... WADA being first.

[Russian Crushin]

Last time I checked, the Pacquiao camp had a list of boxers they've fought with Never next to Mayweathers name. I don't know what else to tell you, other than the fact that I'm not the one to encourage juiceheads competing in contact sports. Pacquiao ain't Tiger Woods, and this ain't even golf you momo. I'm not a barbarian like you giving athlete voluntary passes.

Golf will have testing before boxing because of dudes like you...

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-05-16/sports/29566861_1_hgh-testing-anti-doping-world-tiger-woods

You wonder why casual fans say boxing is dying, because Boxing and it fans never set the precedence on anything. Always negative press, that you love to support.

You only wanted NSAC to have testing, but now because of me all of boxing wont have testing?

[Eastbay Giant]

I don't know what you're getting so upset about, the guys remarks are not off base. The NFL could easily have everybody drug tested who competes in their leauge. They easily have the income in a multi billion dollar league. If boxing was controlled by one governing body it could be possible to test each fighter but boxing is broken into 100's if not thousands of different segments each working to benefiet only themselves, not neccesarily the sport. So lets say that the NSAC started mandatory testing, it would just mean that the fighters who are dirty would stay clear of the state and fight elsewhere. Say the #1 PFP fighter in the world is dirty, he has many different avenues that he could travel to make his millions. I agree with the guys statement that mandatory drug testing for all fights will not happen. I was drug tested for my first bout at the Palace. After that they just assume that since you were clean then that you must be clean now. I'm in the game, not just some spectator with an opinion.....Rockin'

I'm far from upset bro, but your telling me you can't introduce the testing into the high profile fights 1st? If fighters are dirty and fight elsewhere then they lose, because Vegas attracts High Rollers and that's never going to change. So if every other sports is pushing towards better PED testing, and boxing doesn't how does it's integrity remain the same? What if Dana White decides to start blood testing all of his fighters? Where would that leave boxing in the eyes of most?

[Pullcounter]

Take the test hopkins