Greater resumé, Trinidad vs Barrera

[Hiei]

And, you can't still out-debate me.

Oscar has been a champ in more weight divisions then tito and if tito is so great why did he go into hiding for 4 years after b-hop owned him in his prime?

[-Spinal-]

Trinidad.

Why are people naming Juarez on Barrera's resume, does he really lack names like that, that Rocky Juarez has to be added to his resume to try to prove how great he is


And why is Reid being mentioned in Tito's resume?

1. Who did Juarez beat before and after losing to Barrera? Dude lost all of his big fights.

2. Who did Reid beat before and after losing to Trinidad? Nobody.

Don't come talk to me about title runs, or nice records, or what number they were in at their weight class, they are not good names, on any one's resume, not even on Chris John's resume. That would be like me mentioning Angel Manfredy for Floyd Mayweather Jr, Manfredy was a good fighter, as long as he wasn't fighting the Mayweather's, Corrales, Johnston,'s, Spadafora's in his prime. Same with Juarez.

Please, stop mentioning fillers in people's resume to inflate their notable wins.

[jrosales13]

Oscar has been a champ in more weight divisions then tito and if tito is so great why did he go into hiding for 4 years after b-hop owned him in his prime?

Oh because, Oscar cherry picked, fought Tito leftovers, and won more paper titles in more divisions. That makes him greater?

Yea OK...

And, BTW, Tito is not an ATG either. Maybe borderline. So now what?

[Steak]

Didn't we talk about this already? You want to talk about it again?

We can....You bring up Cox, cool. Cliff Rold a respectable and credible journalist. Maybe the best journalist/writer along with Jake Donovan in the game today. And, Rold had Tito winning by one point...So again what is your point by providing that link? If I provide the link where Cliff Rold mentions he had Tito winning by a point. What will that prove exactly?

My point? My point is that he breaks down every round in real time and in slow motion and scores it accordingly. and its pretty obvious if you pay attention that Oscar won at the VERY, VERY least 6 rounds in that fight.

I respect rold and his historical boxing knowledge undoubtedly, but his scoring here is something I flat out cant agree with. How do you score rounds for someone who is missing their shots, and getting peppered with more in return?

Its like Hopkins-Pascal I, where people dont want to give a fighter credit for the win just because it was somewhat close. thats bs. They(Hopkins and DLH) deserved to win these fights.

There are literally only 3 or 4 rounds you could guarentee for Trinidad in that fight. in other rounds you could have given him could have been also scored for DLH. wheras Oscar clearly won rounds 3 4 5 6 7 and 8. the end.

[Hiei]

Oh because, Oscar cherry picked, fought Tito leftovers, and won more paper titles in more divisions. That makes him greater?

Yea OK...

And, BTW, Tito is not an ATG either. Maybe borderline. So now what?

Oscar won a gold medal that alone >>>>tito plus the fact he was champ and didn't go into hiding after his first loss like tito did when b-hop owned him

[jrosales13]

My point? My point is that he breaks down every round in real time and in slow motion and scores it accordingly. and its pretty obvious if you pay attention that Oscar won at the VERY, VERY least 6 rounds in that fight.

I respect rold and his historical boxing knowledge undoubtedly, but his scoring here is something I flat out cant agree with. How do you score rounds for someone who is missing their shots, and getting peppered with more in return?

Its like Hopkins-Pascal I, where people dont want to give a fighter credit for the win just because it was somewhat close. thats bs. They(Hopkins and DLH) deserved to win these fights.

There are literally only 3 or 4 rounds you could guarentee for Trinidad in that fight. in other rounds you could have given him could have been also scored for DLH. wheras Oscar clearly won rounds 3 4 5 6 7 and 8. the end.

How did Oscar biggest cheerleaders score a round that "Oscar clearly won" for Tito?

Oscar clearly won only 5 rounds. Tito, clearly won 4 rounds, there were 3 rounds that could have gone either way.

Sorry I can't take anybody serious who calls this fight a gift. I have no problem if you think Oscar won the fight. But, if you think that Oscar was robbed or whatever. Then I just can't take it serious.

[jrosales13]

Oscar won a gold medal that alone >>>>tito

Look at what this idiot is saying. How can you be taking serious?

[Steak]

How did Oscar biggest cheerleaders score a round that "Oscar clearly won" for Tito?

Oscar clearly won only 5 rounds. Tito, clearly won 4 rounds, there were 3 rounds that could have gone either way.

Sorry I can't take anybody serious who calls this fight a gift. I have no problem if you think Oscar won the fight. But, if you think that Oscar was robbed or whatever. Then I just can't take it serious.

name the rounds. Oscar clearly won 3,4,5,6,7, and 8.

what rounds apart from 10, 11 and 12 did Trinidad clearly win.

[jrosales13]

name the rounds. Oscar clearly won 3,4,5,6,7, and 8.

Oscar biggest cheerleader scored round 4 for Tito.

[Chups]

I think Tito is a HOF ATG, but there is no doubt about Morales and Barrera being HOF ATG!! Both are in the top 50 or the worst inside top 75.

Among Puerto Rican fighters, Wilfredo Gomez and Carlos Ortiz is above Trinidad........probably the same league with Wilfredo Benitez.