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  • warp1432
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    #11
    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. Sergio Martinez
    3. Wladimir Klitschko
    4. Nonito Donaire
    5. Juan Manuel Marquez
    6. Andre Ward
    7. Tim Bradley
    8. Bernard Hopkins
    9. Vitali Klitschko
    10. Carl Froch

    Miguel Cotto and Wongjongkom do not belong on the pound for pound lists. Wladimir and Vitali are so drastically different because Wladimir has been near perfect in the ring lately and to me has looked a lot better. He also has the better resume.
    Last edited by warp1432; 05-23-2011, 09:02 PM.

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    • CaRnAgEViOLaToR
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      #12
      Pacquiao
      Mayweather
      Donaire
      Gamboa
      Marquez
      Martinez
      Hopkins
      Ward
      Bradley
      Agbeko

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      • The_Golden_Goy
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        #13
        you've GOT to have Marquez over Martinez. Sergio beat a Pavlik that Hopkins had already given a beating, Williams he got a one punch KO and Dzinziruk is pretty average

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        • Clegg
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          #14
          I dunno, I'll probably leave someone out but going on who I think would beat who if they were all the same size rather than resume:

          1. Floyd
          2. Pac
          3. Sergio
          4. Donaire
          5. Bradley
          6. Ward
          7. JMM
          8. Hopkins
          9. Dawson
          10. Gamboa

          That's just off the top of my head though. Paul Williams is borderline, despite what happened in his last fight I still think he's a very good fighter and may well have the beating of anyone from 147-160 not named Martinez. But I'd like to see how he comes back, just in case he's not the same.

          JMM and Hopkins I'm not sure about. Both are still very capable but are also clearly past-prime and despite recent wins being good quality, they are a lot easier to hit now than they were just 2-3 years ago. But I wouldn't argue with anyone who rates them higher. They have great resumes but like I said, I'm just going on how they look now and I think both are starting to decline.

          Not sure who wins Bradley-Khan and you can make a case for Khan being fringe top 10, but I think he's still not there yet and lacks the versatility of Bradley, who has shown an ability to win world title fights in several different ways.

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          • Barry Halls
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            #15
            Originally posted by The_Golden_Goy
            you've GOT to have Marquez over Martinez. Sergio beat a Pavlik that Hopkins had already given a beating, Williams he got a one punch KO and Dzinziruk is pretty average
            winning by a 1 punch KO is not enough these days?

            when was jmm's last really good win? I don't think casamayor quialifies. So Juarez/Barrera?

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            • Southpawology
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              #16
              Originally posted by Clegg
              I dunno, I'll probably leave someone out but going on who I think would beat who if they were all the same size rather than resume:

              1. Floyd
              2. Pac
              3. Sergio
              4. Donaire
              5. Bradley
              6. Ward
              7. JMM
              8. Hopkins
              9. Dawson
              10. Gamboa

              That's just off the top of my head though. Paul Williams is borderline, despite what happened in his last fight I still think he's a very good fighter and may well have the beating of anyone from 147-160 not named Martinez. But I'd like to see how he comes back, just in case he's not the same.

              JMM and Hopkins I'm not sure about. Both are still very capable but are also clearly past-prime and despite recent wins being good quality, they are a lot easier to hit now than they were just 2-3 years ago. But I wouldn't argue with anyone who rates them higher. They have great resumes but like I said, I'm just going on how they look now and I think both are starting to decline.

              Not sure who wins Bradley-Khan and you can make a case for Khan being fringe top 10, but I think he's still not there yet and lacks the versatility of Bradley, who has shown an ability to win world title fights in several different ways.


              No froch but dawson????

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              • Left Hook Tua
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                #17
                1. manny pacquiao
                2. amir khan
                3. victor ortiz
                4. nonito donaire
                5. sergio martinez
                6. juan manuel marquez
                7. wladimir klitschko
                8. juan manuel lopez
                9. lucian bute
                10. david tua

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                • -ELO-
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                  #18
                  1.Pac
                  2.Martinez
                  3.Mayweather
                  4.W. Klitschko
                  5.JMM
                  6.Bradley
                  7.Donaire
                  8.Froch
                  9.Bhop
                  10.Ward

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                  • Left Hook Tua
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Clegg
                    I dunno, I'll probably leave someone out but going on who I think would beat who if they were all the same size rather than resume:

                    1. Floyd
                    2. Pac
                    3. Sergio
                    4. Donaire
                    5. Bradley
                    6. Ward
                    7. JMM
                    8. Hopkins
                    9. Dawson
                    10. Gamboa

                    That's just off the top of my head though. Paul Williams is borderline, despite what happened in his last fight I still think he's a very good fighter and may well have the beating of anyone from 147-160 not named Martinez. But I'd like to see how he comes back, just in case he's not the same.

                    JMM and Hopkins I'm not sure about. Both are still very capable but are also clearly past-prime and despite recent wins being good quality, they are a lot easier to hit now than they were just 2-3 years ago. But I wouldn't argue with anyone who rates them higher. They have great resumes but like I said, I'm just going on how they look now and I think both are starting to decline.

                    Not sure who wins Bradley-Khan and you can make a case for Khan being fringe top 10, but I think he's still not there yet and lacks the versatility of Bradley, who has shown an ability to win world title fights in several different ways.
                    ****** gypsy.

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                    • coreyg100
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                      #20
                      1. Manny Pacquiao
                      2. Bernard Hopkins
                      3. Juan Manuel Marquez
                      4. Sergio Martinez
                      5. David Haye
                      6. Wladimir Klitshko
                      7. Vitali Klitshko
                      8. Nonito Donaire
                      9. Amir Khan
                      10. Kelly Pavlik or Miguel Cotto

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