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  • #51
    Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
    i disagree.tarver and pascal are his best wins and thats because they were actually fighting it what is considered their best weight while the majority of his big wins are from opponents moving up(oscar,winky,pavlik) and as far as glenn johnson goes thats like give margarito credit for beating martinez,i know since i don't agree with th ts that most of you will probably say i'm a hater but i'm just keeping it official and i have much respect for hopkins regardless what anyone thinks.carl froch is someone who actually has a good resume yet doesn't get that much credit and with a couple more wins his resume could look better than bernards
    I"m with you about Froch. Ever since the guy has been on TV here in the states I"ve done nothing but rip the guy for being a blow hard with little talent. I was dead wrong. The guy has fought top guys and has shown up in every fight. If he is able to beat Johnson and find a way to compete with Ward, I would have the up most respect.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by slick23 View Post
      I"m with you about Froch. Ever since the guy has been on TV here in the states I"ve done nothing but rip the guy for being a blow hard with little talent. I was dead wrong. The guy has fought top guys and has shown up in every fight. If he is able to beat Johnson and find a way to compete with Ward, I would have the up most respect.
      i didn't think froch was anything special and i also was not a fan but just like you said froch has really been fighting the top competition and in my oppinion he actually looks like he is getting better and imagine if he were to beat johnson ward and bute his resum would be incredible

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      • #53
        Originally posted by tdubb View Post
        1. Tarver was a skeleton when he fought Hopkins.
        2. Beating the old shot RJJR we have now is NOT a big accomplishment.
        3. Pascal is a good fighter but far from great.

        His resume is not the best, I still think Manny's resume is better. He doesnt own any back to back losses and he CRUSHES his oppts. more decisively than HOPKINS.
        question for your smart ass....who has the more DECISIVE losses?!?...and who has fought the TOUGHEST fights?!?...if you come out with Manny's L's are more decisive and B.Hop has fought the tougher fights....then you have 1 and 1 being 2....its so easy....how come a smart ass like yourself find it hard to put facts together and leave your opinion to the side....we all know how TR negoiates Manny's fights....one dude makes REAL history...the other makes his OWN...like his record 8th title being at a catchweight agains a opponent not even ranked in the division...WOW!!

        you dudes can't accept certain things but yall be trying to flip **** around and put the shoe on other ppl...I peep game but I dont play them....keep it real and be honest...whats so hard about that?!?!?...smh

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        • #54
          Originally posted by SekondzOut View Post
          question for your smart ass....who has the more DECISIVE losses?!?...and who has fought the TOUGHEST fights?!?...if you come out with Manny's L's are more decisive and B.Hop has fought the tougher fights....then you have 1 and 1 being 2....its so easy....how come a smart ass like yourself find it hard to put facts together and leave your opinion to the side....we all know how TR negoiates Manny's fights....one dude makes REAL history...the other makes his OWN...like his record 8th title being at a catchweight agains a opponent not even ranked in the division...WOW!!

          you dudes can't accept certain things but yall be trying to flip **** around and put the shoe on other ppl...I peep game but I dont play them....keep it real and be honest...whats so hard about that?!?!?...smh
          how do u come to the conclusion that b hop has fought the tougher opponents?u do know that b hop and manny both have delahoya on their resume.yea manny has fought a bunch of bull**** fights as of late but b hop has also had a bunch of bull**** fights like delahoya,wright and pavlik

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          • #55
            Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
            how do u come to the conclusion that b hop has fought the tougher opponents?u do know that b hop and manny both have delahoya on their resume.yea manny has fought a bunch of bull**** fights as of late but b hop has also had a bunch of bull**** fights like delahoya,wright and pavlik
            Pavlik was unbeaten and Wright hadn't lost in 8 years...when was the last time Manny shared a ring with a young unbeaten lion or someone that hadn't lost in a dam near a decade?!?

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            • #56
              Originally posted by SekondzOut View Post
              Pavlik was unbeaten and Wright hadn't lost in 8 years...when was the last time Manny shared a ring with a young unbeaten lion or someone that hadn't lost in a dam near a decade?!?
              A lot of people have developed amnesia regarding the Pavlik fight.Pavlik was undefeated & touted as the 1st man that was gonna ko BHop.All Pacman has been doing lately is beating fighters he's supposed to beat.Ask them if someone rolls up next to U in a 2012 ferrari & ur whipping a 1982 z28,should he brag if he beats U??But now if he rolls up in a 2012 mustag gt & U light im up with an 82 camaro,that's something to brag about.

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              • #57
                When will people understand Pac beats people hes supposed to beat, because hes expected to beat anyone?

                Hes earnt the luxury of people having faith in him because hes done the business against the best people in the sport of boxing. If you can beat barrera, stop Morales, beat JMM people are going to have a certain faith in you.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by LarryX2011 View Post
                  pascal
                  pavlik
                  tarver
                  johnson
                  tito
                  oscar
                  winky

                  20 title defenses

                  3 time linear champ
                  Originally posted by LarryX2011 View Post
                  look at his over 40 resume

                  tarver
                  pavlik
                  winky
                  pascal
                  roy jones

                  wow
                  Originally posted by LarryX2011 View Post
                  oscar-hof

                  titio-hof

                  winky-hof

                  glenn johnson-most likeyl hof

                  roy jones-hof

                  tarver-most likely hof

                  next question
                  LMFAOOOO, glen johnson is not going to the HOF NEITHER IS TARVER. winky is borderline.

                  Pac has:

                  Marquez 1x
                  Morales 2x
                  Barerra 2x
                  Oscar 1x
                  Shane 1x

                  That's 7 wins vs 5 BONA FIDE HALL OF FAME OPPONENTS. If you add the borderline HOFs (ricky hatton, cotto) that would be 9 wins vs 7 HOFs...

                  Lets do Bernards:

                  Oscar 1x
                  Roy 1x
                  Tito 1x

                  Borderlines winky & tarver.

                  How the **** that even comes close to pac is beyond me.

                  Originally posted by LarryX2011 View Post
                  hof on mannys resume
                  barerra
                  morales
                  oscar
                  shane

                  on hopkins

                  oscar
                  roy jones
                  tito
                  winky
                  Lets debunk this ***** propaganda down,

                  Pac 106-147 > Bernard 160-175

                  Pac 4 lineal champ > Bernard 3 lineal champ

                  Pac 3x Ring Mag Fighter of the Year > Bernard 1x Fighter of the Year

                  Pac 1x Ring Mag Knock out of the Year > Bernard -zero

                  Pac Fighter of the Decade > Bernard Not Fighter of the Decade

                  Pac 8 division champ > Bernard 3 division champ.

                  Scoreboard: Pac > Hopkins.

                  Originally posted by LarryX2011 View Post
                  and hopkins wasnt ko'd 2 times like manny
                  roberto duran lost by ko 4x. i guess hopkins is greater than duran.

                  wtf happened to you larry? You had a pretty good stretch where you were a pretty decent poster. Now you back to being infected with the FLOIDS virus.


                  Last edited by Ragnar Lothbrok; 05-23-2011, 07:26 PM.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by SekondzOut View Post
                    Pavlik was unbeaten and Wright hadn't lost in 8 years...when was the last time Manny shared a ring with a young unbeaten lion or someone that hadn't lost in a dam near a decade?!?
                    pavlik was fighting at 160 yet his fight with hopkins was at 170 and the whole pavlik was expected to win argument works against someone who actually thought pavlik was going top win which i did not,hopkins win over pavlik,pascal and tarver were a big deal because he was old but if you didn't pay attention to his age he would of been favored in all those fights just like pacquiao gets alot of credit for his wins because everyone looks at him as a small fighter and as far as the wright fight goes winky fought the majority of his career at 154 and only had about 3 fights at 160 and 1 of those fights was against trinidad who fought most his career at ww but the fight with hopkins happened at 170 that was an advantage for hopkins just like manny has been fighting with catchweights or whatever that are to his advantage

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by LarryX2011 View Post
                      pascal
                      pavlik
                      tarver
                      johnson
                      tito
                      oscar
                      winky

                      20 title defenses

                      3 time linear champ
                      Pacquiao:

                      Barrera > Trinidad
                      Cotto > Pavlik
                      Marquez > Winky
                      Morales > Oscar
                      De La Hoya > Johnson (at time)
                      Hatton < Tarver
                      Margarito < Pascal
                      Mosley > Eastman

                      Pacquiao has a better resume

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