WK-SP Round 12, my only complaint

**Kid Achilles** · 09-26-2005, 05:23 PM

I don't think Peter was as hurt as you're saying he is. Yes he did stumble around and clutch at Wlad's waist but a few moments after the fact he was appeared clear headed and was returning fire at Wlad. I think he lost his balance and that's that.

I have a feeling that if Wlad, who being in the ring with him could clearly look into his eyes and see his condition, knew he could knock Peter out with ease he would have done so.

As Joe Frazier was fond of saying, "a hurt man is a dangerous man". It just wasn't worth the risk of getting knocked out or even knocked down himself (which would make the fight close to even with a 10-8 round for Peter) unless Wlad knew without a shadow of a doubt that the next few punches could take Peter out.

**ejk22** · 09-26-2005, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by Thoth

I'll confess that i've never seen any of Wlad K's fights previous to this one. Everything i've known about the fighter came through various articles read on boxing sites. So I at least knew what this fight meant as far as what WK had to prove.

So i'm watching the fight and, yes he went down, but the first two were suspect anyway. He came right back, didn't get screwed up and managed to keep himself in the fight. So as the fight progressed I was impressed with the performance he had going on, until the 12th and final round.

Maybe i'm just nitpicking but why didn't he finish Peter off? He had him stunned twice and Peter was off balance enough that he was ready to go. I understand the whole sticking to your gameplan business and whatnot, but seriously in almost every other situation that i've seen one fighter hurt another, that killer instinct just clicks and the fighter pounces. I saw Wladimir looking for the angle after he hurt Peter the first time but he wasn't going in for the kill.

I know some of you might be thinking that even though Peter was dreadfully tired, his punches were still dangerous enough, even in that state, to warrant caution. But I don't think he would have been fast and precise enough to pull off effective counters. Wlad more or less looked like he could have gotten out of harm's way had Peter somehow showed a Gatti like quality for being dangerous when cornered. I doubt he would have stayed in to slug with Samuel as he boxed the whole night.

That's pretty much the only thing that bothered me. I was impressed by what I saw having read so many suspect WK's various fighting qualities. As for Peter, he definately hasn't hit his peak and I think losing this fight will serve him better in the long run as he now has actual proof of areas where he needs to improve.

Your thoughts.

I think it was a case of a boxer listening to his trainer too much and not his own instincts. Remember before round 12 Steward told Wlad he has this fight won and to fight smart don't take chances in there. Wlad listened to that instead of attacking Peter and knocking him the **** out.

**Barley_Popinski** · 09-26-2005, 08:28 PM

Peter was clearly stunned by that left hook, then again later by a right hand. I also wondered why he didn't pummel Peter to finish him off. I thought Peter was there for the taking, he was hurt, stumbling around, and was throwing all arm punches that were slow and inaccurate. Maybe he did listen to Manny too much, but it would have been better for him if he would have dropped Peter in that round.

**Manny_P** · 09-26-2005, 08:33 PM

Peter's legs were clearly out in ma opinion in that 12th round. His head was way down when Wlad hit him wit that jab that caused him "to wobble". I'm not too sho, but that jab shoulnt have that effect that it did. MAYBE, it was jest Pete outa balance wit fatigue.

**Kid Achilles** · 09-26-2005, 08:35 PM

Jab? That was a left hook.

**!! Mr. Soprano** · 09-26-2005, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by Kid Achilles

Jab? That was a left hook.

No, it was a jab (look at my sig)

But the reason he didn't finish him off was the right thing to do!

He had already won that fight and had to survive the round.
He might have gotten KD trying to finish Peter.. that would have made it a draw, or Peter would have won as the last round would have been 10-8 peter and not 10-9 Wlad (3 points and that's the 3 point margin that he won by)

Smart Move

**Manny_P** · 09-26-2005, 08:41 PM

right. it looks like a jab from the people round hurrrr's avatars and sigs.

**!! Mr. Soprano** · 09-26-2005, 08:45 PM

Actually, now that I slowed it down, it looks like a ma***ing one quick left hook.

Damn, Wlad has some hand speed..

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**Kid Achilles** · 09-26-2005, 08:52 PM

It's definitely the hook. Wlad has the quickest hook I've ever seen on a 230+ pounder.

WK-SP Round 12, my only complaint