How could Jermain Taylor beat Hopkins twice??

[KnockUTheFukOut]

Funny how Hopkins has a lot of fans when about a Week ago people was bashing this guy and calling him "BORING AND DIRTY" now all of a sudden "HOPKINS IS THE BEST" hahaha

[MuckMuck]

I think after the two loses to Taylor, Hopkins started using PEDs. Just like after the 2nd fight with Marquez, Pac suddenly got better. PEDs can make an ordinary fighter become extraordinary.

[KJB]

he didn't- Hopkins got robbed.

I agree with that. It isnt the whole story, though.
Hopkins was killing himself to make weight, Taylor was a physical monster, and the style problem of counter puncher vs counter puncher: usually the faster guy wins.
Still, I didnt see Taylor really do enough to win. He didnt deserve the draw against Winky Wright, either. Judges were just gay for that guy.

[KJB]

Funny how Hopkins has a lot of fans when about a Week ago people was bashing this guy and calling him "BORING AND DIRTY" now all of a sudden "HOPKINS IS THE BEST" hahaha

Do you remember the storm of attention he was getting after he took Pavlik to school? It was hilarious.

[jtiger777]

it was a style matchup problem and the flaws that were in taylor were not yet known (fading late, etc.). Taylor was also a good fighter and was young and hungry (he lost that hunger after he won the belts imo).

Hopkins started late in both fights, I believe he was giving Taylor too much respect in hindsight (Remember Taylor was considered a big puncher at the time). The first fight I recall hopkins was very cautious for the first 5 rounds.

this!!!!!!!! but i think he won both

[DUCK FACE]

Why are people getting all crazy? he beat Pascal close who Froch already dominated.. props for doing it at his age. But lets not act like Pascal is some great

[Tobi.G]

It doesn't make any sense when you see how good Hopkins looks nowadays.

Whether you agree with the judges that Taylor won or not. Taylor won and Hopkins failed to impress. Hop looked quite slow and didn't throw all that many punches. But since those losses he has looked spectacular in several fights. My first thought was this version of Hopkins would punish and dominate Taylor....but maybe it was something about Taylor's style of boxing that Hopkins just couldn't figure out.

The Taylor fights were Hopkins last middleweight fights and he moved up after that for a reason.......get it? The reason he lost is that he was weight drained.

[$tate of Mind]

Taylor beat Hopkins with activity alone, Jean Pascal isn't that good.

[Haglerwins]

yawn... Hopkins was weight drained at 160 by the Taylor fights. Said so himself. He had to conserve energy when in those bouts.

He goes up to LHW after and doubles his punch output. Look at a comparable opponent in Wright who came to fight and arguably won (and drew with Taylor himself) look at the energy Hopkins had moving up.

[Doctor_Tenma]

u cant be serious

bhop always made 160 comfortably...he walked around at 166 when not in training and he hired mackie shilstone to effectively put on the weight when moving up

he didnt look better against tarver...he fought the exact same fight except tarver never pressed the action like taylor did. the first 6 rounds were an absolute snoozefest

ure right about taylor though...he was hungry, determined and unintimidated by bhop. the latter being the reason panda thinks taylor won at least one of their two fights. bhop was able to play mind games with odlh, trinidad, pavlik, pascal, calzaghe and even rjj...but he never got to taylor

He was still a very big middle, at that age making 160 was gonna effect him, it's inevitable.