Benard Hopkins is the greatest fighter of this Generation not Pacquiao!

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  • Khalid X
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    #91
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    1. SRR
    2. Greb
    3. Langford
    4. Armstrong
    5. B. Leonard
    6. Pep
    7. Charles
    8. Ross
    9. Ali
    10 Moore

    Next 10 in no order

    Duran
    R. Leonard
    Gans
    Walker
    Fitzsimmons
    Wilde
    Jofre
    Whitaker
    Louis
    Tunney

    That are 20 fighters who are greater than Hopkins without a doubt. is not even close.

    And, both Greb and Langford have a case to being The GOAT and you don't even have them in your top 10?
    You know your the only other person I know that has Greb that high. I have him at #2-3 as well because no one has beaten as many HOF fighters and his resume rivals SRR.
    Last edited by Khalid X; 05-22-2011, 06:22 PM.

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    • Travdog
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      #92
      Originally posted by [KLTP]
      Roy was one of the most skilled fighters of all time, period. More skilled than Leonard, Ali, and Duran IMHO. Yet, what did he do with that talent besides beat a few quality names? He did move up to HW(which is no simple task by all means) and beat a guy who "knocked down Evander Holyfield" aka the subpar HW champion. It wasn't like he pulled a Michael Spinks when he went up and fought Larry Homles. No no no. He can have all the talent in the world, but it's what you do with that talent that defines you.
      What did Hopkins do? He dominated a division that Jones vacated....imagine Roy had fought Tito and Oscar? WHat do you think people would have said? Roy was too big for them....See perception is reality. People were foolish to believe that Trinidad can beat Hopkins...I won a G on that fight...no lie....on caribsports.com. People underrated Hopkins and then quickly overrated him. Roy would have been the the favorite and would have been expected to beat Tito so that victory would have meant nothing.

      For every Picasso job we have seen from B Hops...we have seen lazy fights like against Taylor, Winky, Calzaghe. We have seen revisionist history like the Echols fight. We saw three fights with Robert Allen...like WTF...

      But the guy is a marvel, to be his age and still to be so effective is to his credit....

      As for Roy...it's embarrassing how people try to discredit him...before him dropping down from Heavyweight Roy was unstoppable. We all know what the reason was for the demise of Jones....Who was Roy supposed to fight that he didn't?

      Nigel Benn and Steve Collins? Dariusz? I only wanted to see the Dariusz fight of course but the white tiger should have come here. Roy was the draw, only Roy's leftovers went over there to fight him. Hopkins didn't go, Toney didn't either. So give me a break.

      As for Roy being lazy, have you ever seen him work out? Amazing. But you are rigth about one thing, do to his skills h didn't develop the defensive techniques that are essential to survival once his reflexes left.

      But it's all about the eye test to me...I have a sample size of over 15 years of dominance that helped me draw the conclusion that Roy was the best....

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      • straightleft
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        #93
        Originally posted by -Huey-
        Pacquiao is not on B-hop's level...which title has Pac held for over 10 years? Which belt has Pac successfully defended 20 times? NONE!
        B-hop fights REAL opposition, not shot to shit fighters coming off losses in a division they dont even belong in...
        You are rightl koku!

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        • Travdog
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          #94
          Since I began watching boxing in 86.....the best I have seen.

          1. Floyd
          2. Roy
          3. Whitaker
          4. Haglar
          5. Chavez
          6. Hopkins
          7. Toney
          8. Pacman
          9. De La Hoya
          10. Trinidad

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          • antrob
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            #95
            Originally posted by Jury
            The win over Pascal was a great win for Hopkins but Pascal was an average fighter with a title in a weak division.
            Pascal just didn't have a title, HE WAS THE UNDISPUTED CHAMPION OF THE DIVISION!

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            • antrob
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              #96
              Originally posted by 'Sugar' Freddi
              I don't think beating one of the worst light heavyweights is a big accomplishment, especially to be put in all of the sudden ahead of Pac. Still big, but it's getting overrated. Pascal has terrible stamina, mentally weak, bad boxing skills, questionable chin, etc.
              Questionable chin? The man has never been down in his career and Hopkins dropped him twice even though he didn't get credit.

              Dude how was Pascal one of the worst Light Heavyweights? He beat the no. 1 Light Heavyweight in the world, and was on everybody P4P list in Dawson to fill the Lineal Vacancy. What about his two wins over Diaconu who was a title holder and is still a Top 10 Light heavyweight.

              Bro what about his slug fest against Froch at SMW. I bet you haven't even seen that fight.

              Quit talking out of your ass.

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              • antrob
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                #97
                Originally posted by AssasinKing
                That wasnt an example you douche bag, I was saying what you did but for hopkins

                The fact is, Pacquiao has taken on harder fights and won ... Not just people who had a 0 on their record or the kelly pavliks who were rated higher then should have been in the first place, lets be real....does any1 really rate pascal that highly? Its the fact hopkins is so old and still winning against younger up and comers, thats where the huge praise he gets comes from

                The fact is, If pacquiao took on the Khans, Bradley, Alexanders etc (which is the equivalent of hopkins taking on the pascals...pavliks)

                He would blow them out of the water within the first half of the fight....And every1 knows it
                You're right but the difference is Pacquiao isn't fighting no young hungry fighters, instead right now he is feasting on left overs.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by antrob
                  Forget jumping weight classes by cherry picking, this man dominated the middleweight division for 10 years, making 20 defenses of his title and is now a 2 time Light Heavyweight Champion and is the oldest fighter ever to win a world title.

                  This man fought everyone, lost some, won most and is still kicking ass at the age of 46.

                  Bernard Hopkins is the greatest and Pacquiao and Mayweather can fight for second place.
                  LOL so we can say Calzaghe is greater then.

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                  • antrob
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by ModernTalking
                    LOL so we can say Calzaghe is greater then.
                    Yeah Calzaghe resume is way better than B Hop, sure lets say he is greater.

                    While were at it lets put Clinton Mitchel ahead of B Hop to because he gots a close when over him to.

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                    • tangalog2200
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by etlux
                      I will admit Pacquiao did great things. Maybe they're tied but Hopkins no slouch compared to Pacquiao. They are both ATG!
                      foreman and hopkins victory should put an end to issues about old and used up fighters; such issues being raised up against pac's roster of opponents like odlh, diaz, hatton, marg etc.....in a bid by others to belittle the accomplishments of pac....

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