Benard Hopkins is the greatest fighter of this Generation not Pacquiao!

[Travdog]

Hopkins is great no doubt...but Roy Jones was a better fighter than him....proved it in the ring...the end of Roy's career isn't going to influence me any...

Hopkins is to be respected for his skill and toughness...but he is a dirty fighter, has fought like a coward on occasions, flopping and all that nonsense....

He avoided James Toney like the plague...

I lived the era...I saw the fighters...Roy was the better fighter period.

And Floyd is better...

Hopkins might be next on the list , him or Pac

[Las Vegas,]

Dont get carried away with BH by saying the best of this generation. Pac has been a steamroller since basically beating Barrera.

BH is getting credit for doing well in old age. But Tarver, Pavlik, Pascals are basically not that good.

Pac would have outclassed them real bad and then be accused of cherry picking big time.

Haha, people weren't saying that before they fought Hopkins. Hopkins was ATLEAST a 3/1 underdog in all 3 of those fights. Pavlik was deemed as the next big thing, he was the "white hope", the next Gerry Cooney. Pascal was being hyped up as Roy Jones, no one even gave him a chance against Tarver especially after he knocked out Roy Jones "He knocked out the guy who beat Hopkins!" and he was moving up. He beat all those guys, boom he gets discredited. The same thing happens to Floyd. Hopkins is just now getting the respect from the media.

Like I said, he'll never get appreciated by the fans until he's finally gone.

[-Spinal-]

How can you say one guys victories and change another guys?

Marquez got a loss and draw against pac.....

How about we all say hopkins got 2 losses against pascal

I mention their losses first.

I mentioned Hopkins losses to Taylor, which some people think Hopkins did enough to win, and I didn't even mention that, but you didn't even acknowledged that I didn't mention that. I also mentioned his loss against Calzaghe, which a lot of people thought he won, and I didn't even mention that, and once again, you didn't even acknowledged that I didn't mention that.


Then I mentioned Pacquiao's losses, Morales, and I said some people thought he lost against Marquez. Then I go on to STILL mention Marquez as a win.


So, what are you crying about again?

And we can't say Hopkins lost to Pascal, because the only controversy from those fights, was that Hopkins should have wont the first fight. And the second fight, get the fuck out of here with your shitty example. Doesn't even make any sense.

[Blubba]

Forget jumping weight classes by cherry picking, this man dominated the middleweight division for 10 years, making 20 defenses of his title and is now a 2 time Light Heavyweight Champion and is the oldest fighter ever to win a world title.

This man fought everyone, lost some, won most and is still kicking ass at the age of 46.

Bernard Hopkins is the greatest and Pacquiao and Mayweather can fight for second place.

Calzlappy > hopkins

[Stromprophet]

Hopkins is great no doubt...but Roy Jones was a better fighter than him....proved it in the ring...the end of Roy's career isn't going to influence me any...

Hopkins is to be respected for his skill and toughness...but he is a dirty fighter, has fought like a coward on occasions, flopping and all that nonsense....

He avoided James Toney like the plague...

I lived the era...I saw the fighters...Roy was the better fighter period.

And Floyd is better...

Hopkins might be next on the list , him or Pac

While Roy certainly accomplished a lot, and was indeed, the more talented and better fighter, he lacks one thing Hopkins never did.

Work ethic. Roy was lazy cause he could be. People don't criticize that for fun, everyone does cause it is true. He relied on his natural talent, athletic ability, etc and never worked on the basics.

It's why father time caught him much quicker (by getting KTFO *TWICE*, which Hopkins never allowed to happen to him).

Floyd might be great...and yes a better fighter. But Floyd has had all of 2 fights the last 3 1/2 years. And only 6 in the last 5 1/2. It's kind of sad that someone has more fights in his 40s than one guys has in all of his 30s.

Floyd will not get that high a spot in the HOF and Boxing Community after it's over because he didn't fight enough, didn't fight enough high profile fights, and never fought the greats in his prime.

At least Hopkins fought Roy when he was great. Floyd never fought the best at any time they were the best.

[Las Vegas,]

Hopkins is great no doubt...but Roy Jones was a better fighter than him....proved it in the ring...the end of Roy's career isn't going to influence me any...

Hopkins is to be respected for his skill and toughness...but he is a dirty fighter, has fought like a coward on occasions, flopping and all that nonsense....

He avoided James Toney like the plague...

I lived the era...I saw the fighters...Roy was the better fighter period.

And Floyd is better...

Hopkins might be next on the list , him or Pac

Roy was one of the most skilled fighters of all time, period. More skilled than Leonard, Ali, and Duran IMHO. Yet, what did he do with that talent besides beat a few quality names? He did move up to HW(which is no simple task by all means) and beat a guy who "knocked down Evander Holyfield" aka the subpar HW champion. It wasn't like he pulled a Michael Spinks when he went up and fought Larry Homles. No no no. He can have all the talent in the world, but it's what you do with that talent that defines you.

['Sugar' Freddi]

I don't think beating one of the worst light heavyweights is a big accomplishment, especially to be put in all of the sudden ahead of Pac. Still big, but it's getting overrated. Pascal has terrible stamina, mentally weak, bad boxing skills, questionable chin, etc.

[Stromprophet]

Roy was one of the most skilled fighters of all time, period. More skilled than Leonard, Ali, and Duran IMHO. Yet, what did he do with that talent besides beat a few quality names? He did move up to HW(which is no simple task by all means) and beat a guy who "knocked down Evander Holyfield" aka the subpar HW champion. It wasn't like he pulled a Michael Spinks when he went up and fought Larry Homles. No no no. He can have all the talent in the world, but it's what you do with that talent that defines you.

Yep.

It's really a shame. If he had any kind of work ethic or respected that he was one of the most skilled fighters all time (if not the most pure talented boxer in the history of the sport) he could have accomplished a lot more than he did.

And he couldn't sustain it. He kept trying to fight like he always did, even when he got older. That's why he got KTFO twice. I mean, those are some of the most memorable layouts in all of boxing.

[Stromprophet]

I don't think beating one of the worst light heavyweights is a big accomplishment, especially to be put in all of the sudden ahead of Pac. Still big, but it's getting overrated. Pascal has terrible stamina, mentally weak, bad boxing skills, questionable chin, etc.

Chin? I agree on the other items. But has he ever even been knocked down?

[AssasinKing]

I mention their losses first.

I mentioned Hopkins losses to Taylor, which some people think Hopkins did enough to win, and I didn't even mention that, but you didn't even acknowledged that I didn't mention that. I also mentioned his loss against Calzaghe, which a lot of people thought he won, and I didn't even mention that, and once again, you didn't even acknowledged that I didn't mention that.


Then I mentioned Pacquiao's losses, Morales, and I said some people thought he lost against Marquez. Then I go on to STILL mention Marquez as a win.


So, what are you crying about again?

And we can't say Hopkins lost to Pascal, because the only controversy from those fights, was that Hopkins should have wont the first fight. And the second fight, get the fuck out of here with your shitty example. Doesn't even make any sense.

That wasnt an example you douche bag, I was saying what you did but for hopkins

The fact is, Pacquiao has taken on harder fights and won ... Not just people who had a 0 on their record or the kelly pavliks who were rated higher then should have been in the first place, lets be real....does any1 really rate pascal that highly? Its the fact hopkins is so old and still winning against younger up and comers, thats where the huge praise he gets comes from

The fact is, If pacquiao took on the Khans, Bradley, Alexanders etc (which is the equivalent of hopkins taking on the pascals...pavliks)

He would blow them out of the water within the first half of the fight....And every1 knows it