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Bhop is the pound for pound king
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Originally posted by victorythagr8 View PostIf that was the case then froch over hopkins. He officially have a win over dirrell, pascal, and abraham.
Let's not forget hopkins lost to calzaghe, fought a shot to **** roy, before the pascal fight.
FWIW Froch>>>>>Bhop p4p wise. Why Carl isn't top 5 is beyond me especially since he has a top 3 resume in boxing (last 6-8 fights).
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Originally posted by Dirt View Postim basing it off of 2010-present (most recent fights)
B Hop: Roy Jones, Pascal x2
Sergio: pavlik, williams, dzinziruk
Pac: Clottey, Margs, Mosley
Sergio had the toughest of the three. Pac's been on there for quite sometime and off name recognition
Bhop: mainly because of his age....quite an incredible feat.
My point. Sergio was not even anywhere close to the top 10 list before fighting Williams. To me the past decades do matter for top 10 P4P and where you were relative to the top 10.
I put Bhop #4. I think Sergio is doing something special, however, any loss and I would say he's out of the top 10. Period. Unlike when Bhop lost to Calzage, no way he's out of the top 10 because he's earned tenure there.
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Originally posted by -Top Rank- View PostTo be honest his win over Pavlik is no better than Floyds win over Marquez. Both were brought up two divisions at a catchweight yet Bhop is praised and Floyd (and soon to be Manny) are slammed for something Bhop has made a out of.
FWIW Froch>>>>>Bhop p4p wise. Why Carl isn't top 5 is beyond me especially since he has a top 3 resume in boxing (last 6-8 fights).
But of course, since he lost and Hopkins isn't a Top Rank fighter, you are equating that to the JMM fight. Can you please acquire some objectivity
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Naw Mike I dissagree. That Pavlik win was a GREAT win. Its not like Pavlik was small either. Hes at 168 now btw.
Pavlik was actually favored to win and SEVERAL people said Hops would get KO'd. Hops went on to dominate him and win 12-0 and give him his first L.
That was a great win.
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Originally posted by No Ceilings View PostHopkins is Top 3.
Cant even be argued.
1. Martinez
2. Hopkins
3. Pacquiao
Hopkins has only one good win since 2006. How that constitutes as being P4p is beyond me?
FWIW I will say 3 because I include his wins over wright and Pavlik, but if you give Hopkins credit for those then you gotta give Manny credit for Marquez III as they are similar (even though I know your trolling @ss won't).
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winning isn't the only criteria now!!!!!
if everybody were the same weight go from there is he even top 5??????
given his abilities at his age c'mon not everybodies going to let him hold them all night like they were slow dancing
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