What's the verdict on Wlad's holding?

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  • beez721
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    #21
    Originally posted by dansweeney
    It was the only way wlad wasn't going out of there on a stretcher, while i hated it, it was the the only way he could fight peter. If Wlad didn't hold and run he would have been kayo'd
    I disagree,,,,it was the reason why he got knocked down 3 times. he's not used to using that tactic and didnt put his head far enough inside and kept getting nailed behind the head because of it. wlad fights very well on the inside and may have been able to take peter out with his short hook. that holding tactic just made it a tougher fight for wlad

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    • Jarlaxle
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      #22
      Originally posted by Thoth
      I believe the holding is what caused him to get clipped in the back of the head so many times. So whatever, it worked sometimes but he did pay for it. I mean, when you clearly see how bad Peter was looking, you do whatever you can to wear his endurance down.
      Agreed. If he was warned early it would have made the whole fight cleaner. The ref should have warned him in the 3-5 round and taken a point away if he kept it up. Its not like he would have stopped holding and its not like 1 point would have cost him the the fight so it really does not matter much, but thats just my take.

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      • Jarlaxle
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        #23
        Originally posted by beez721
        I disagree,,,,it was the reason why he got knocked down 3 times. he's not used to using that tactic and didnt put his head far enough inside and kept getting nailed behind the head because of it. wlad fights very well on the inside and may have been able to take peter out with his short hook. that holding tactic just made it a tougher fight for wlad
        You are crazy. He is a good fighter at short range but it was not the punches in the back of his head that almost KOed him in the 10th. Wlad was turning his head for a reason. Matter of fact it was a good thing that Wlad went down in the 10th. Peter had him hurt against the ropes and was about to land a few more big shots when Wlad went down. When he got up the round was almost over. Had he not gone down from a legit punch it would have been a good idea to take a knee when he was against the ropes.

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        • MetalVomit
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          #24
          Originally posted by Manny_P
          too much holding. He hugged Pete way too much like Pete is his boo or sum shyt.

          I agree, he held sometimes frequently, however, the stats speak for themselves. Also, there's no denying the way Peter looked after the fight...
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          • RastaSmoker
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            #25
            Samuel Peter needs to stay active in the fight game. He should fight some of the other names in the division that will keep his name in the media. If he does that, and bides his time his will eventually get another shot. I am a big klitshko fan, but if these to fought again, and wlad doesnt fight using the same concept he will get floored. He needs to keep sam at a distance.

            And for all the people out there that say wlads a ***** for fighting the way he did are just useless tools. He fought one of the tactically smarter heavyweight fights in years. The man new his strengths and his weaknesses. So like any smart fighter would do, he played to those strengths. He would be a complete fool for trying to slug it out.
            Would you try to slug it out when you know that your chin is very questionable. I Think not!

            He demonstrated that he is a very very smart fighter, who if blessed with his brothers chin for instance would have went extremely far in the fight game. But unfortunatly though he was blessed with the chin of the the game punchouts "Glass Jaw Joe"

            and as for peter. I really dont understand what the hype about him is. He cant even throw a Jab for ****s sake. Not to mention his abilty or lack there of to take over and dictate a fight. At any time, if truly desired Sam could have put wlad in the corner and stopped the fight. But, he didnt. Not the mark of a true champion.

            If peter is gonna go anywhere in boxing other then to the growing list of "WHO THE HELL IS THAT" heavyweights, he must learn to dictate a fight, until then he will just be someone that can knock you out, but only if you stand there and let him

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