The heavyweights of today are talentless and that includes the Klitschkos

**-Spinal-** · 05-21-2011, 04:06 PM

Steve Cunningham should move up to HW. He'd be the best in-shape HW there in a long time, including over Klits. Not that he'd beat them easily, but I bet out of all the American HW's Cunningham can probably be the best HW out there because he actually takes his health and physique serious unlike the current HW's.

**Mr. Fantastic** · 05-21-2011, 04:06 PM

Like they were filled with talent during the Tyson and Holmes era?

The problem is that 2 great HWs are stomping the competition instead of one.

Pretty sure if those 2 didn't exist, Americans would be jumping on Arreloa, Haye and Eddie Chambers as great by now.

**-KPB-** · 05-21-2011, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic

Like they were filled with talent during the Tyson and Holmes era?

The problem is that 2 great HWs are stomping the competition instead of one.

Pretty sure if those 2 didn't exist, Americans would be jumping on Arreloa, Haye and Eddie Chambers as great by now.

Lol...what the fcuk has Haye done to be great........

The problem with the Klits iss they arent exciting, esp. Wlad.....if they were..they would get praised more...Tyson was the most exciting fighter in heavyweight history...thats why he gets a passs....and was at a height disadvantage......

**Mr. Fantastic** · 05-21-2011, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by -KPB-

Lol...what the fcuk has Haye done to be great........

The problem with the Klits iss they arent exciting, esp. Wlad.....if they were..they would get praised more...Tyson was the most exciting fighter in heavyweight history...thats why he gets a passs....and was at a height disadvantage......

Nothing but if they didn't exist, they would of considered better by now. Not only by the media but fans. The Klits are exciting, they knock people the **** out with their high percentages. Most of Tyson's exciting fights were against bums. Look what happened when he stepped up with someone that wasn't intimidated? Holyfield wasn't that much taller either than him.

Also, the Klits have fought guys that are just as big.

**etlux** · 05-21-2011, 04:17 PM

question is... do the klitschkos have the skills to be fleet footed like Ali?

**Uncle Sam** · 05-21-2011, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by catskills23

Yes the heavyweights today are sub standard and that includes the klitschkos . Why are the klitschkos dominating the division . Its very simple because they are much taller than their opponents they are able to keep them at bay with their jab . The Klischkos dont have a particularly good jab . Its just that their opponents dont have any headmovement to avoid it. If any of these guys like boystov or perez could learn to move their head they could beat these statues. They have no footwork , no boxing skills and cant fight inside . Infact they grab like an octupus anytime any of their opponents get close. As for haye yes he has got talent he has speed, power and reflexes but he never learned how to box . He has no jab, lousy footwork, not enough head movement and jumps in and leaves his chin exposed . If haye learned how to box he would easily knock klitschco out.

The legend has spoken.

**Uncle Sam** · 05-21-2011, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood

Steve Cunningham should move up to HW. He'd be the best in-shape HW there in a long time, including over Klits. Not that he'd beat them easily, but I bet out of all the American HW's Cunningham can probably be the best HW out there because he actually takes his health and physique serious unlike the current HW's.

Cunningham has no chin at CW. Klitschko at HW is a death wish.

**etlux** · 05-21-2011, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by catskills23

Yes the heavyweights today are sub standard and that includes the klitschkos . Why are the klitschkos dominating the division . Its very simple because they are much taller than their opponents they are able to keep them at bay with their jab . The Klischkos dont have a particularly good jab . Its just that their opponents dont have any headmovement to avoid it. If any of these guys like boystov or perez could learn to move their head they could beat these statues. They have no footwork , no boxing skills and cant fight inside . Infact they grab like an octupus anytime any of their opponents get close. As for haye yes he has got talent he has speed, power and reflexes but he never learned how to box . He has no jab, lousy footwork, not enough head movement and jumps in and leaves his chin exposed . If haye learned how to box he would easily knock klitschco out.

I bow to you, Legend of NSB!

**Money Shot** · 05-21-2011, 04:28 PM

I'd have no fears for current Wlad against any recent American except Tyson circa 86-88.

The heavyweights of today are talentless and that includes the Klitschkos