Isn't it funny how Pacquiao fans cant logically explain how Manny "beats Mayweather?"

[JudgeDredd2011]

1. Pac can take Floyd's punches, he will not need to watch out for a KO punch like Mosley's.
2. Pac is not afraid to mix it up, getting hit doesn't make him stop going forward. (With #1, this means Pac's work rate will be up to his normal output).
3. Most of Pac's biggest KO's happen when the other fighter is in the act of punching.
4. Pac's style is unpredictable, his punches don't look pretty - exactly why most of his opponents say that he is flawed and easy to beat ... until they meet him in the ring.
5. Lastly, Pac has nothing to lose.. his career is not built on that big zero. Win or lose, if he gives a good fight he will still get respect. Floyd on the other hand has everything on the line. His whole career revolves around keeping the zero - he must win!.

[led]

Any knowledgeable and perceptive boxing fan can compose an argument in favour of a Pacquiao or Mayweather victory. The reason that there tends to be further elaboration from Mayweather fans is simply because there are a greater array of flaws in Pacquiao's game in comparison with the lesser number of flaws in Mayweather's game to dissect, elucidate and expound upon.

Nobody said better than this ^^^^^^

[BoxingFollower]

1. Pac can take Floyd's punches, he will not need to watch out for a KO punch like Mosley's.
2. Pac is not afraid to mix it up, getting hit doesn't make him stop going forward. (With #1, this means Pac's work rate will be up to his normal output).
3. Most of Pac's biggest KO's happen when the other fighter is in the act of punching.
4. Pac's style is unpredictable, his punches don't look pretty - exactly why most of his opponents say that he is flawed and easy to beat ... until they meet him in the ring.
5. Lastly, Pac has nothing to lose.. his career is not built on that big zero. Win or lose, if he gives a good fight he will still get respect. Floyd on the other hand has everything on the line. His whole career revolves around keeping the zero - he must win!.

First of all, ALOT FIGHTERS that were undefeated Career depended on that big ZERO.

When Tyson was undefeated people were hyping him
Frazier and ALI when they were undefeated, the same thing.
Joe Calazage - is undefeated, but his undefeated streak doesn't mean anything because he str8 out ducked any real competition.
Roy Jones - People just couldn't wait until the day that he finally lose his undefeated streak.

So when boxers are undefeated there hyped up alot and are seen as having ONLY that on there legacy, lol Pacquiao never went past 15-0 or something right?

[Luilun]

All you read on here is "Mayweather is gay and won't fight Pacquiao."

Yet of course we all know that is not true and the only reason the fight is not happening is because Manny won't take a simple drug test.

Ask a Pacfan how Manny beats Floyd? The reply will be something idiotic like "Floyd has a glass chin and has no legs."

Ask a Mayweather fan how Floyd beats Manny and you will nine times out of ten get a logical answer, Why?
Because nine of ten Pacquiao fans/Mayweather haters don't know anything about boxing.

Most Pacquiao fans on here, are.... well Pacquiao fans and not Boxing fans.

It's simple really, Pacquiao fans are casual fight fans and probably only started watching after he fought Oscar de la Hoya.
Anyone with a brain can understand that the only thing stopping this fight is Manny unwillingly wanting to take the tests....

Very Simple Floyd throws 20 punches a round Pac throws 3 to 5 times of that. Shoulder roll works best agnist right handers because he's able to counter with straight rights and upper cuts as he turns his body from their punches. Agnist a Left Hander like Manny when he throws his Straight left he always steps to his right or leans to his right this prevents any counters from the shoulder roll. Also Floyd will leave his body open for right hooks to the body folowed by Pac left Upper cuts. It's a bad match up for Floydie and he knows it that is why he has no confidense in himself to fight Pac. He also had a difficult time with Judah, but Judah was only a 4 round fighter he also got his ass handed to him by Spadafora and Pacquiao is in a different level that Judah and Spadafora. I hope this satisfy's you

[pocket_rockets]

Very Simple Floyd throws 20 punches a round Pac throws 3 to 5 times of that. Shoulder roll works best agnist right handers because he's able to counter with straight rights and upper cuts as he turns his body from their punches. Agnist a Left Hander like Manny when he throws his Straight left he always steps to his right or leans to his right this prevents any counters from the shoulder roll. Also Floyd will leave his body open for right hooks to the body folowed by Pac left Upper cuts. It's a bad match up for Floydie and he knows it that is why he has no confidense in himself to fight Pac. He also had a difficult time with Judah, but Judah was only a 4 round fighter he also got his ass handed to him by Spadafora and Pacquiao is in a different level that Judah and Spadafora. I hope this satisfy's you

and maybe, just maybe Floyd knows these and the people here don't...

[Roja's480]

Floyd isn't a featherfist like some people call him
he's not a dangerous puncher, but he commands respect
his opponents get reluctant to rush him because they eat counters
once that sets in, he starts leading and picks them apart
Pac won't show him that amount of respect
and he has the chin to take what Floyd gives him
he'll get hit, but he won't take heavy damage
his handspeed is a key favor
Floyd can't time a guy who's faster than him as well
and Pac attacks with more than 1 big shot nowadays
Pac's flurries will get him out of his shell, landed or not
Floyd will know he's giving away rounds if he doesn't open up
Floyd countering too much loses him rds on activity
Floyd going forward opens him up in ways he's never usually open
and he's not gonna risk that enough to win

why do you think pac can take floyd's punches, remember no one has landed a straight right to pacs chin, and you see what happens when you get jabbed on your chin a lot

[seanthetaxi]

Of course, one can fancy what sort of circumstances and conclusions such a fight would be. Perhaps, it is convenient to construct an argument in favor of mayweather namely that His technique are based on sound scientific principles of boxing.

[ALG United]

First of all we've seen Pac get tired when somebody is hitting back. Secondly, If he didnt throw a thousand against Mosley who barely threw punches then come on bruh dont be blind. You act like countering Pac is something we havent seen before. I also remember Marquez rocking that granite chin with a medium powered shot. If Marquez can wobble him Im sure Floyd can.

Manny was never wobbled by Marquez, Juan just once cought Manny off-balanced, Manny just tapped his gloves and went on to KD Juan... And Marquez is a counter-puncher that brawls sometimes in the pocket, while Floyd counter-punch while moving away to position himself for defense hence his punches tends to loose power more. And if you don't get Manny's attention you will be beaten....

[PAKYO]

My main issue is that how are we gonna see which side is correct if floyd keeps getting on vacation once he sees Pac shadow is looming.

[ALG United]

They said the same thing about Hatton and Mosley, Both fighters punch outputs halfed when they fought Floyd.

Look at Shanes punch output on compubox with this fight with Margarito or even de la hoya, his stats are completely halfed, as was Hattons for example.

Manny was completely unwilling to throw against Mosley when Mosley stood on front of him, now think what the hell, the same Mayweather who fought Mosley would of none to Pacquiao that night? He would of demolished him.

When someone stands on front of Manny waiting to counter, Manny gets unwilling to throw.

If you are going by statistics, here's Floyd and Manny with a common opponent in Mosley... Yes Manny's output were cut down to almost half, maybe because Mosley was back pedaling all throughout, maybe Manny was looking out and avoiding that big KO punch from Mosley, or maybe his legs is just cramping out.. Anyway regardless of all this, Manny still was able to LAND more total punches, more power punches and more COMBOS on a back pedaling Mosley. While Floyd landed LESSER total punches, LESSER power punches and FAR FAR FEWER COMBOS on a willing fighter that stands toe to toe on him in Mosley... And may i remind you, as all the *****S claim, when Floyd fought Castillo the first time, Floyd was having problem with his shoulder or back then that's why Floyd almost lost to Castillo if not for a favorable judge decision. But when Manny was having problem with his legs in the Mosley fight, he still manages to KD'd the granite chined Mosley, peppered him with combos and dominated the retreating Shane in twelve rounds...