Who has a better chin: Wlad or Lennox?

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  • Martin (Top Knowledge)
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    #61
    Originally posted by rocco1252
    what skills did lennox posses that wlad doesnt? Wlad has more power, more heart, probably more speed, maybe not as much stamina but even thats questionable until fight night to see who was in better physical and mental shape. Wlad has and alway had more athleticism than Lewis had in his whole career so you tell me why you feel different.
    Lennox Lewis is probably the strongest heavyweight to grace the ring... All his opponents have explained his natural strength.

    Lennox Lewis had more power than Wlad, Lennox has time and time again showed us that he's a one punch knock out artist at the top level!

    Lewis showed more heart in the Vitali/Morrison/Briggs fights than Wlad has ever shown.

    Lewis is quicker than people think with that jab... He's quicker than Wlad.

    Wlad has stamina problems... See his Brewster fight.

    Wlad has mental flaws... He's worried about getting knocked out and is currently building his confidence back fight by fight.

    At the end of the day... Lennox Lewis dominated the heavyweight division for nearly a decade, he unified it! There's no reason to suspect that Wlad will even become the linear champ yet, let alone dominate the division for any length of time.

    When you're are the champ, the level of competition you mix in is that much higher than when you are a fringe contender.

    Lennox Lewis took everyone they could throw at him and beat them. Guys like Sam Peter would have been lucky to get themselves into a position to even challenge Lewis.

    Lewis would have walked through Wlad the way he walked through Golota or Grant.

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    • rocco1252
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      #62
      Originally posted by Martin.
      Lennox Lewis is probably the strongest heavyweight to grace the ring... All his opponents have explained his natural strength.

      Lennox Lewis had more power than Wlad, Lennox has time and time again showed us that he's a one punch knock out artist at the top level!

      Lewis showed more heart in the Vitali/Morrison/Briggs fights than Wlad has ever shown.

      Lewis is quicker than people think with that jab... He's quicker than Wlad.

      Wlad has stamina problems... See his Brewster fight.

      Wlad has mental flaws... He's worried about getting knocked out and is currently building his confidence back fight by fight.

      At the end of the day... Lennox Lewis dominated the heavyweight division for nearly a decade, he unified it! There's no reason to suspect that Wlad will even become the linear champ yet, let alone dominate the division for any length of time.

      When you're are the champ, the level of competition you mix in is that much higher than when you are a fringe contender.

      Lennox Lewis took everyone they could throw at him and beat them. Guys like Sam Peter would have been lucky to get themselves into a position to even challenge Lewis.

      Lewis would have walked through Wlad the way he walked through Golota or Grant.
      lewis had stamina issue's as well especially when he had to actually fight and not just stand infront of someone and throw his jab or 1,2 combination he always threw. His chin was also suspect especially when he got careless which was in most of his fights he would play around in front of you and then get hit. Lewis was in a heavyweight division with smaller heavyweights unlike today where they are all big men. I dont see Lewis even lasting 8 round with Wlad he has too much athleticism for Lewis, more power and more heart all the things that would make him prevail over Lewis

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      • Martin (Top Knowledge)
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        #63
        Originally posted by rocco1252
        lewis had stamina issue's as well especially when he had to actually fight and not just stand infront of someone and throw his jab or 1,2 combination he always threw. His chin was also suspect especially when he got careless which was in most of his fights he would play around in front of you and then get hit. Lewis was in a heavyweight division with smaller heavyweights unlike today where they are all big men. I dont see Lewis even lasting 8 round with Wlad he has too much athleticism for Lewis, more power and more heart all the things that would make him prevail over Lewis
        I just think it's crazy that you can think Wlad would KO Lewis when Wlad's not even at the top yet and Lewis will go down in history as one of the top 10 heavyweights of all time.

        Maybe if Wlad can rebuild himself successfully and go on to not only unify the heavyweight division, but dominate it for the next decade and he's somewhere near Lennox Lewis's level... I might understand you.

        Even then though... I still think Lewis would walk through Wlad... Big guys were Lewis's "steam roll" speciality.

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        • GranTorino
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          #64
          In my opinion, the left hook that Wlad caught in the 5th round (might be the 3rd, not sure) Peter fight and recovered from would have KO'd Lewis. Because if a Rachman right hand can KO him, you know damn well that a Peter power shot would.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Mark 22
            Lewis' chin was not that bad at all. I think Wlad's chin is pretty f**king bad, but not quite as bad as people make it out. He took some good shots from Peter.

            Really? And tell me, please, what other heavies out there could have taken that Peter power shot and shake it off like Wlad did?

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              #66
              Martin Lewis isn't close to being the strongest heavyweight who ever lived.Holyfield fought Foreman and Lewis and said a old Foreman was far stronger.
              But anyway Wlad could knock out Lewis and Lewis could knock out Wlad.Neither one has a great chin and they both have poor stamina.Lewis was alot more composed than Wlad.If Lewis decides to jump on Wlad like Sanders did then Wlad last no more than 2 rounds.

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              • Martin (Top Knowledge)
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                #67
                Originally posted by tommyhearns804
                Martin Lewis isn't close to being the strongest heavyweight who ever lived.Holyfield fought Foreman and Lewis and said a old Foreman was far stronger.
                But anyway Wlad could knock out Lewis and Lewis could knock out Wlad.Neither one has a great chin and they both have poor stamina.Lewis was alot more composed than Wlad.If Lewis decides to jump on Wlad like Sanders did then Wlad last no more than 2 rounds.
                Well maybe Foreman is the excuse that fits the rule...

                Lewis didn't have the greatest stamina... But he didn't need stamina to win fights, he knew how to control and dictate the pace of the fight.

                The Lewis vs Tua was a perfect example of that... Sweet science.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Martin.
                  Lennox Lewis is probably the strongest heavyweight to grace the ring... All his opponents have explained his natural strength.

                  Lennox Lewis had more power than Wlad, Lennox has time and time again showed us that he's a one punch knock out artist at the top level!

                  Lewis showed more heart in the Vitali/Morrison/Briggs fights than Wlad has ever shown.

                  Lewis is quicker than people think with that jab... He's quicker than Wlad.

                  Wlad has stamina problems... See his Brewster fight.

                  Wlad has mental flaws... He's worried about getting knocked out and is currently building his confidence back fight by fight.

                  At the end of the day... Lennox Lewis dominated the heavyweight division for nearly a decade, he unified it! There's no reason to suspect that Wlad will even become the linear champ yet, let alone dominate the division for any length of time.

                  When you're are the champ, the level of competition you mix in is that much higher than when you are a fringe contender.

                  Lennox Lewis took everyone they could throw at him and beat them. Guys like Sam Peter would have been lucky to get themselves into a position to even challenge Lewis.

                  Lewis would have walked through Wlad the way he walked through Golota or Grant.
                  one big inaccuracy. lewis was not quicker than wlad. wlad has the quicker hands and its harder with the left hook and jab. lewis;s right hand was a bit heavier. lewis had a betyer chin and defense

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