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  • Bring It On
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    #31
    Originally posted by check hook
    He picked Pac over Hatton, Clottey and Cotto if i'm not istaken. He also picked Margarito and SSM over Pac, so he's about 50/50 here.

    But seriously what's with all the butthurt Pacfans on here. You all said JMM is ineffective and a blown up bloated, fat and slow LW against Mayweather.....what exactly will change 2 years on at 144??

    Manny's going to decapitate JMM in a very very easy fight.....

    If you go through all of Dwyer's prediction videos he's made some damn good picks......he's just not that good at picking Pac fights of late........
    60/40 on those 5 fights aren't exactly impressive IMO. And neither is picking Katsidis over JMM.

    I'm not thrilled about this fight, but I think it's somewhat more legit then the Mayweather fight.

    1) It's 144 and not 146, not that it makes that much of a difference though.
    2) Manny and Marquez are more similiar in size
    3) Marquez probably learned something about the mistakes he made when making weight at WW

    But most important, many people think that they've unfinished business and Marquez seems to have figured out Pac pretty good which should make it a fight at least.

    Again, neither Pac nor Floyd deserves THAT much respect for beating JMM at 144/146 IMO, but I have an easier time understanding why Pac-JMM III is being made.

    I'd have rather seen Pac-Bradley, Pac-Ortiz or Pac-Martinez. Even though Pac-Bradley at least would have been an easier win for Manny IMO.
    Last edited by Bring It On; 05-20-2011, 09:26 AM.

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    • Carpe Diem
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      #32
      CompuBox stats for Pacquiao-Marquez two bouts.

      Marquez: Total punches landed/thrown against Manny Pacquiao

      Total punches

      Landed: 330
      Thrown: 1,058

      32%


      Total Power punches

      Landed: 252
      Thrown: 649

      39%


      Total Jabs

      Landed: 78
      Thrown: 409

      19%

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      Pacquaio: Total punches landed/thrown against Juan Manuel Marquez


      Total punches

      Landed: 305
      Thrown: 1,258

      24%



      Total Power punches

      Landed: 214
      Thrown: 536

      40%




      Total Jabs:

      Landed: 91
      Thrown: 722

      13%

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        #33
        Did this guy say Pacquiao's technique hasn't improved since 2004? If so, then he obviously doesn't know much about boxing.

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        • LMFAO
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          #34
          Originally posted by check hook
          i agree, but this particular thread isn't spam (a 5% i guess), unlike the garbage one he posted about Shane vs MP being fixed......i'm simply talking about what is biased and what isn't......in that regard this particular post isn't bias....it's not even his opinion, it's the opinion of someone else he is asking you to discredit not his own.
          Manny and Shane was a COMPLETE fixed fight same with Clottey and Pac. There are TONS of people who knew they were going to be BEFORE they happened ME included and TONS coming out after saying BOTH those fights were fixed.

          I actually don't care what the boxing "experts" on here "think" they know. Red K all day kid....

          My threads get deleted because a rabid ******* mod feels that God forbid there is a grain of truth in them with the massive amount of nonsense going on with Pac it's getting unbearable for *******s to defend. Like it or not.

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            #35
            Originally posted by -Top Rank-
            Did this guy say Pacquiao's technique hasn't improved since 2004? If so, then he obviously doesn't know much about boxing.
            His technique is pretty much the same since 2004.

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              #36
              Originally posted by TheTruth!
              Dwyer isn't a Pac hater, he simply doesn't take into consideration the cheating factor. Example, he thought Margarito had a chance to beat Pacquiao... (He picked Margarito to beat Mosley for these same reasons) simply because Margarito had a history of having tremendous power and the ability to bust up opponents badly. Once Margarito lost his wraps, his hands became pillows. Dwyer refused to acknowledge Margarito had a cheaters advantage, which is why his predictions evolving Margarito were severely flawed.

              Same point with Pacquiao. Dwyer looks at Manny's past fights of wearing his opponents down with accumulation, not single shot power, and thinks the same Manny who showed up 3 years ago is going to show up again in November. Dwyer even takes note that Manny's technique hasn't even improved much at all since 2004. However, He failed to take into consideration the fact that Manny is using EPO, HGH, and Steroids now. This gives Manny a tremendous advantage. Things are not quite the same as they would appear on paper!

              Those are the KEY things he leaves ot about Manny. The cheaters advantage. It's blatantly obvious to anyone in Cheato and Manny. I feel he just leaves his predictions "on paper". If anyone doesn't know or consider the beyond obvious cheating by Manny...and Arum. Good luck.

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              • LMFAO
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                #37
                Originally posted by Boxing Scene
                Your mission here is to discredit anything to do with Manny, so no one should do anything except ignore your posts if they want unbiased information.
                And your mission here is to provide damage control for anything negative to do with Manny? Manny is a complete FRAUD. Like it or not.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by LMFAO
                  Those are the KEY things he leaves ot about Manny. The cheaters advantage. It's blatantly obvious to anyone in Cheato and Manny. I feel he just leaves his predictions "on paper". If anyone doesn't know or consider the beyond obvious cheating by Manny...and Arum. Good luck.
                  Yes, not just Manny, also Margarito.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Mr. Roach
                    60/40 on those 5 fights aren't exactly impressive IMO. And neither is picking Katsidis over JMM.

                    I'm not thrilled about this fight, but I think it's somewhat more legit then the Mayweather fight.

                    1) It's 144 and not 146, not that it makes that much of a difference though.
                    2) Manny and Marquez are more similiar in size
                    3) Marquez probably learned something about the mistakes he made when making weight at WW

                    But most important, many people think that they've unfinished business and Marquez seems to have figured out Pac pretty good which should make it a fight at least.

                    Again, neither Pac nor Floyd deserves THAT much respect for beating JMM at 144/146 IMO, but I have an easier time understanding why Pac-JMM III is being made.

                    I'd have rather seen Pac-Bradley, Pac-Ortiz or Pac-Martinez. Even though Pac-Bradley at least would have been an easier win for Manny IMO.


                    in height maybe......but not in SIZE. Whether you believe POac is on PED's or not he's not much smaller than Floyd as a WW. If they were to actually fight no more than 4 or 5 pounds would separate them on fight night.

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                    • check hook
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by LMFAO
                      Manny and Shane was a COMPLETE fixed fight same with Clottey and Pac. There are TONS of people who knew they were going to be BEFORE they happened ME included and TONS coming out after saying BOTH those fights were fixed.

                      I actually don't care what the boxing "experts" on here "think" they know. Red K all day kid....

                      My threads get deleted because a rabid ******* mod feels that God forbid there is a grain of truth in them with the massive amount of nonsense going on with Pac it's getting unbearable for *******s to defend. Like it or not.


                      Not fixed. Unless by fixed you mean they were chosen because they had very little chance of winning??

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