Williams vs Ishida is off

[jrosales13]

Ross Greenburg must have thought Ishida is too dangerous, after what he did to one of his favorites, James Kirkland.

They'll likely get some welterweight or light welterweight to move up and fight the 6'3" Williams at 154.

It was rotten of of Greenburg to do this to Ishida, offer him the fight, get his hopes up, and than decide against.

Not going to happen. Wolak is an exciting white boxer, Greenburg & Davis don't like him for that reason.

Why did you duck me the other day when I pointed out, contrary to what you posted, HBO will likely NOT be showing Adamek-Vitali?

Adamek was supposed to LOSE to Arreola, like Litzau was supposed to lose to Caballero. He was there as an opponent against a big, strong HW who Greenburg believed would beat him. It was a Goossen event in California, with Jack Reiss as referee. They wouldn't have Adamek on after that, HBO ignored Kathy Duva's telephone calls.



No, Adamek-Vitali is official and there's two pressers next week:



HBO has already scheduled Sergio Martinez for Oct 1:

http://boxrec.com/show_display.php?show_id=620908

What a pathetic racist piece of crap you're.

[Kevin Malone]

Adamek was supposed to LOSE to Arreola, like Litzau was supposed to lose to Caballero. He was there as an opponent against a big, strong HW who Greenburg believed would beat him. It was a Goossen event in California, with Jack Reiss as referee. They wouldn't have Adamek on after that, HBO ignored Kathy Duva's telephone calls.

Who has Adamek fought since Arreola worthy of being on HBO? There is a reason none of his fights have been on Showtime or ESPN since that fight. If Greenburg really thought ******* was gonna win he's ******er than we all think he is.

Of course Litzau was an opponent against Caballero, I didn't think he had a shot. Even though he'll be an opponent he's gonna be on HBO again (and I think could win again)...

No, Adamek-Vitali is official and there's two pressers next week:

I know that fight is official, I'm talking TV deals. I bet it's on HBO.

HBO has already scheduled Sergio Martinez for Oct 1:

That date isn't official and neither is an opponent. He's got an agreement with HBO as far as I know.

[Kevin Malone]

No, it isn't.

American boxers are not covered in much detail in Russia. They know he's old, like they know Hopkins, Vitali and Holyfield are old, but they are not really aware of how shot Roy is.

Nice to know you can read Lebedev's mind, know the tapes he's seen, and know he's never looked at BoxRec before.

Didn't know we had a mindreader on NSB...

[The Hammer]

Who has Adamek fought since Arreola worthy of being on HBO?

Now you're being deceptive. You know as well as I do how the business of boxing works. Without HBO or Showtime TV money, Duva couldn't afford any better opponents.

If they would have had Adamek on HBO, then he would have fought better opponents. But they didn't return Kathy Duva's telephone calls.

There is a reason none of his fights have been on Showtime or ESPN since that fight. If Greenburg really thought ******* was gonna win he's ******er than we all think he is.

Greenburg is indeed ******. But thank goodness he is kind of dumb, because I've been enjoying seeing those upsets over HBO house fighters.

Download Berto-Ortiz in HD, and watch for the expressions on the faces of Davis and Greenburg when Ortiz knocks down Berto in round six. Who were they rooting for?

Of course Litzau was an opponent against Caballero, I didn't think he had a shot. Even though he'll be an opponent he's gonna be on HBO again (and I think could win again)....

Greenburg has made him wait many months since that upset win over Caballero. No doubt, he expects Broner to beat Litzau.

That date isn't official and neither is an opponent. He's got an agreement with HBO as far as I know.

There's no agreement for Klitschko-Adamek to be on HBO. If you are correct, why don't you post a link.

[The Hammer]

Nice to know you can read Lebedev's mind, know the tapes he's seen, and know he's never looked at BoxRec before.

Didn't know we had a mindreader on NSB...

Now you're being ridiculous. When all else fail, you resort to that.

If you look at the Russian boxing sites like allboxing.ru you'll see while there's a lot of detail about Russian boxers, there really isn't much about American fighters.

Same as on American sites like ESPN, there's a lot about American and American-based boxers, but not much detail about Russian boxers.

[Kevin Malone]

Now you're being deceptive. You know as well as I do how the business of boxing works. Without HBO or Showtime TV money, Duva couldn't afford any better opponents.

If they would have had Adamek on HBO, then he would have fought better opponents. But they didn't return Kathy Duva's telephone calls.

Heavyweights they could afford with HBO subsidies would not draw ratings. Only hardcore boxing fans in the US are gonna watch a fight like Adamek vs Helenius. HBO has covered numerous Klitschko fights in the past and they are consistently disappointed with their ratings. Personally I'm glad they dropped them. I don't like subsidizing a bunch of crappy fights.

Download Berto-Ortiz in HD, and watch for the expressions on the faces of Davis and Greenburg when Ortiz knocks down Berto in round six. Who were they rooting for?

I don't have a clue what either looks like.

Greenburg has made him wait many months since that upset win over Caballero. No doubt, he expects Broner to beat Litzau.

Made him wait? WTF is Litzau's promoters job? That's like saying it's Greenburg's fault Paul Williams has had to wait so long.

There's no agreement for Klitschko-Adamek to be on HBO. If you are correct, why don't you post a link.

I've never said it's agreed to, I was talking Sergio. HBO has said they are interested in Vit-Tomasz

[Kevin Malone]

Now you're being ridiculous. When all else fail, you resort to that.

If you look at the Russian boxing sites like allboxing.ru you'll see while there's a lot of detail about Russian boxers, there really isn't much about American fighters.

Same as on American sites like ESPN, there's a lot about American and American-based boxers, but not much detail about Russian boxers.

They can't click this link and see he's shot?: http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...1758&cat=boxer

They can't use YouTube in Russia?

Do you think these Russians you constantly defend are fucking ******?

Lebedev, his trainers, his managers, and his promoters have to know who they are facing. You just keep digging your hole even deeper.

Instead of just owning up to your backwards statements you just keep on diggin'.

[The Hammer]

They can't click this link and see he's shot?: http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...1758&cat=boxer

What language is BoxRec in?

They can't use YouTube in Russia?

Can't you use RuTube in the USA?

In Russia they use RuTube, not YouTube so much.

Do you think these Russians you constantly defend are fucking ******?

Lebedev, his trainers, his managers, and his promoters have to know who they are facing. You just keep digging your hole even deeper.

I don't think Russians are ******, but some Americans seem to have NO CAPACITY FOR INSIGHT whatsoever.

So are YOU aware of how shot the great Russian amateur middleweight Gaydarbek Gaydarbekov is? Have you even ever thought about it?

Have you ever even heard of him?

I'm sure Lebedev's manager has done his research and is well aware of how shot Roy is. I never said he isn't.

But I don't think Denis was really aware of it though, at least not when he accepted the fight. Incidentally, more so than most boxers Lebedev grew up in severe poverty, and this is his first chance at a decent payday.

And by the way, I never said at any time I personally approve of the fight - in fact I said the opposite.

Heavyweights they could afford with HBO subsidies would not draw ratings. Only hardcore boxing fans in the US are gonna watch a fight like Adamek vs Helenius.

HBO had Sam Peter on against several clubfighters in 2004 and 2005, before the fight with Wlad.

And HBO showed Arreola-Walker, Arreola-Witherspoon, Arreola-Minto, and also Arreola against an overweight and shot Jameel McCline.

[Kevin Malone]

What language is BoxRec in?

Russian: http://translate.google.com/translat...Dboxer&act=url

[ny123]

Whats going on with Angulo's immigration status? That is an HBO worthy fight and i would be sure to go to that if it was in AC.