JMM Agreed, PAC Hasn't Signed, Now Is The Perfect Time...

[KRITKL]

floyd retired because manny fought clottey?

the 1st nego took place after Cotto. Clottey was who he fought after it fell thru.

[IronDanHamza]

Yes i did believe what floyd said on his video, he is ****in scared! What else can you discern from a "i'm no win situation here even if i fight Manny". Isn't that a giveway he's not really wanting to fight at all and all this ruckus he made along with his *****s were all just excuses for him to evade the fight?

Tell me then why did he say that particular phrase if you think i'm wrong.

You're just picking one part of it. He said many things aswell as that, do you believe those also?

I'm sure someone could easily do the same thing with Pac. ****, many fanboys on here have already.

I don't know why he said that, he say's alot of ****** things. But I don't hold his new words as gospel that 'he's ready to fight Manny, just take the test' just as I don't take Manny's 'I will take any test' as gospel either.

Evidently, you do, though.

[letsgobrady]

it's easy money, Dazed...i dont agree with it but he gets $10-20mil for beating up non-threats...we would all kill for a gig like that

Manny Pacquiao will play along with whatever Bob Arum wants to do as long as he's getting paid well

he'll play puppet and dummy as long as the checks keep cashing in

the reason why i leaned on Floyd is because the only way, IMO, to get PAC to break out of his puppet routine, is to call him out...really put the spotlight on him

remember the first negotiations? PAC had a hard stance on cut offs...when the media started to backlash, he softened up


more backlash a few years later, and now we're getting claims of him agreeing to everything...


imagine if Floyd kept pressuring? we might see a fight


if he doesn't, in PACs own words, he'll be happy with what he's done and keep fighting stiffs for $20mil...and who can blame him?

there is a video of manny watchin sergio call him out yet i don't see him even mention martinez so i don't know what makes you think that calling manny out will make manny fight.

what do u mean by who can blame him ?

[danny711]

If Floyd wants a fight, all he has to do is have his people call Manny's people and say let's do it.

[pasawayako]

People here needs to understand that Floyd and Pac live different lifestyles and this will attribute to how much they really want to fight each other. The fact is, Floyd has more pressure making this fight than Pac.

Pac - already beloved by his country, whether he wins, lose or draw. It's safe to say that he doesn't care who he fights nowadays for he spends most of his winnings on charity and his congress work. His legacy is sealed and that's the reality of it, so a fight with Floyd is not important.

Floyd - opposite of Pac on how much he's beloved by his country, we all see his rants. He only has one option and that is to win. If he lose, it will only damage his reputation more than it already has. There'a a TON of pressure in his shoulder right now compared to Pac, and not to mention his legal troubles.

People here need to realize the amount of pressure these two fighters are facing, and you can't deny that Pac has it 'easier' than Floyd. But what Floyd and his fans need to understand is you have to earn respect, you don't demand it.

this ^^^^^^^^^.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

1. We won't see a fight until Manny agrees to OST. How much pressuring does he need to do that? Even when he negotiated with Greenburg he couldn't bring himself to agree to that. How many more tries does he need to get his story straight? Enough with the bull**** already. The pressure should be on MANNY.

2. I know it's easy money but it's going to keep being easier money if people support it (hint, hint).

3. Manny Pacquiao doesn't play along with whatever Arum wants unless he wants it too (see: Hatton fight). That's why I blame Manny, no one else. He calls the shots. And if he doesn't, then the good people of the Philippines are doomed to put this huckster in political power.

1. but its not tho...whether its right or wrong, he's a media darling and when you look at the general consensus, Floyd is always the one being blamed...i just thought that if Floyd pressed hard enough, there could be a breakthru

2. hey, i was having fight parties during King's HW tourney ppvs during the 90s...i have no issues paying for crap fights and getting drunk thru it

3. remind me again about the Hatton issue? he was DLH-esque as far as paydays go so i dont see why going after him was a problem...?

[FerdinandMarcos]

If Floyd wants a fight, all he has to do is have his people call Manny's people and say let's do it.

Floyd agreed to a 5050 split...ten MILLION for every pound over 147....and 14 days to de-juice.

That STILL didn't do it.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

there is a video of manny watchin sergio call him out yet i don't see him even mention martinez so i don't know what makes you think that calling manny out will make manny fight.

what do u mean by who can blame him ?

yes...because Sergio brings the same kind of money as Floyd...LetsLOGOFFBrady

[letsgobrady]

the 1st nego took place after Cotto. Clottey was who he fought after it fell thru.

yes i know but you said that floyd retired after manny fought the guy he didn't want to.who were you talkin about because it couldn't have been clottey because i can't even remember hearing clottey and floyds name in the same being mentioned in the same sentence

[IMDAZED]

1. but its not tho...whether its right or wrong, he's a media darling and when you look at the general consensus, Floyd is always the one being blamed...i just thought that if Floyd pressed hard enough, there could be a breakthru

2. hey, i was having fight parties during King's HW tourney ppvs during the 90s...i have no issues paying for crap fights and getting drunk thru it

3. remind me again about the Hatton issue? he was DLH-esque as far as paydays go so i dont see why going after him was a problem...?

1. Regardless, he knows what he has to do to make the fight. He won't do it. You can either infer that he doesn't want the fight or doesn't want the test. Choose one.

2. I have issues with people trying to rob me. Just me.

3. He refused to fight/sign the contract. Arum had to come out of his own pocket (millions!) in order to make the fight happen. In other words, Pacquiao moves when he wants to. He's enjoying ****ing the fans for millions. Why not? They keep coming back for more. Guess the sex is good.