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  • #61
    Originally posted by boricuajr23 View Post
    I'm just curious, would you give Cotto credit if he fought and beat all 3, or would you say they were all too young, unproven or not ready for Cotto?
    Honestly, I would expect Cotto to beat Jr, I think he's just a much better fighter even though Jr would be a live opponent.

    I would without a doubt give him all the credit in the world for beating Canelo and Angulo.

    Personally I think the Canelo fight would be a "pick em" fight because it would take place in the near future and Canelo is big strong and will get better.

    I think Cotto would lose to Angulo though, Angulo is Margarito 2.0, possibly being a better boxer. His style is not a good one for Cotto. Pressure fighter with an iron chin and KO power in both hands.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by JmH Reborn View Post
      I would love for Floyd to fight:

      Pacquaio
      Cotto
      Martinez
      Ortiz
      Williams
      Margarito -- Yes, I still want this fight to happen for whatever odd reason
      Kahn
      In 2005 who wouldve been on that list?

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      • #63
        We can talk all we want about Cotto vs Floyd, and frankly I would like to see it, I think it would be slightly competitive with Floyd winning a UD...but at the end of the day Bob Arum isn't doing it. He simply isn't going to risk Cotto looking really bad against Floyd and potentially losing money on fights he could put Cotto in for the near future where he would be much more competitive.

        On another note it really is shocking that some of you guys just refuse to see what Arum is doing here. I mean you really think it is just coincidence that Floyd hasn't fought ONE Top Rank fighter since leaving Arum. Oh that's right, Floyd is just scared of all the Top Rank fighters I remember. I mean give me a f***ing break. Arum used to say Floyd was the greatest fighter he's ever seen (now he says that about Pac) and once Floyd leaves Arum Floyd is just coincidentally "scared" of all of the Top Rank fighters. Don't be blind people.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Chopper417 View Post
          We can talk all we want about Cotto vs Floyd, and frankly I would like to see it, I think it would be slightly competitive with Floyd winning a UD...but at the end of the day Bob Arum isn't doing it. He simply isn't going to risk Cotto looking really bad against Floyd and potentially losing money on fights he could put Cotto in for the near future where he would be much more competitive.

          On another note it really is shocking that some of you guys just refuse to see what Arum is doing here. I mean you really think it is just coincidence that Floyd hasn't fought ONE Top Rank fighter since leaving Arum. Oh that's right, Floyd is just scared of all the Top Rank fighters I remember. I mean give me a f***ing break. Arum used to say Floyd was the greatest fighter he's ever seen (now he says that about Pac) and once Floyd leaves Arum Floyd is just coincidentally "scared" of all of the Top Rank fighters. Don't be blind people.

          I completely agree.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Chopper417 View Post
            We can talk all we want about Cotto vs Floyd, and frankly I would like to see it, I think it would be slightly competitive with Floyd winning a UD...but at the end of the day Bob Arum isn't doing it. He simply isn't going to risk Cotto looking really bad against Floyd and potentially losing money on fights he could put Cotto in for the near future where he would be much more competitive.

            On another note it really is shocking that some of you guys just refuse to see what Arum is doing here. I mean you really think it is just coincidence that Floyd hasn't fought ONE Top Rank fighter since leaving Arum. Oh that's right, Floyd is just scared of all the Top Rank fighters I remember. I mean give me a f***ing break. Arum used to say Floyd was the greatest fighter he's ever seen (now he says that about Pac) and once Floyd leaves Arum Floyd is just coincidentally "scared" of all of the Top Rank fighters. Don't be blind people.


            wouldn't it have been great if Floyd DIDNT leave Top Rank?


            the way Arum threw PAC in there against Margarito and Cotto...if Floyd was there, we coulda had a full on round robin of great fights


            maybe Floyd saw the writing on the wall and didn't wanna play that?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI- View Post
              wouldn't it have been great if Floyd DIDNT leave Top Rank?


              the way Arum threw PAC in there against Margarito and Cotto...if Floyd was there, we coulda had a full on round robin of great fights


              maybe Floyd saw the writing on the wall and didn't wanna play that?
              Because he didn't want the middle man which is bob arum, but you already knew that.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Fresno View Post
                Because he didn't want the middle man which is bob arum, but you already knew that.



                maybe he didn't want the fights too....some people have even mentioned it...dont know if you've heard

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI- View Post
                  maybe he didn't want the fights too....some people have even mentioned it...dont know if you've heard
                  Bro whenever they ask Manny about the fight he says he only wants it because the fans do.. You can tell he don't give a **** about the fight... You got Floyd doing videos pushing for the fight... Floyd clearly really wants the fight... Manny can careless.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
                    U obviously don't understand anything it seems.If Cotto has never been beaten by a defensive minded fighter,it's exactly that.Cotto has also beaten faster fighters than himself.Exciting fights?Cotto is an exciting fighter.Cotto isn't Baldomir,he's dealt with faster fighters.The fight won't be 1 sided & He does have a chance to win.Styles make fights & Cotto does well against defensive fighters period.
                    that was way back now at this point in time he is a different fighter who was damaged really bad by margs and pac, he didnt look good against mayorga either, cotto is a warrior he should just call it a career, i would love to see him fight martinez at 154 but i just dont see him winning, he might have a better chance against canelo and jccjr

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Fresno View Post
                      Bro whenever they ask Manny about the fight he says he only wants it because the fans do.. You can tell he don't give a **** about the fight... You got Floyd doing videos pushing for the fight... Floyd clearly really wants the fight... Manny can careless.


                      i was talking about Floyd not leaving Top Rank and having a round robin with PAC, MArgarito and Cotto...i'm not sure where we had a disconnect

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