Comments Thread For: Khan Rips Judah: I Want Someone Who Comes To Fight!

[PRINCE O' PROSE]

Paul was moving forward in that fight,while Khan back up and used his in and out style..I just want to add Khan missed majority of his punches..

That's the fight I saw....Kahn being the aggressor...I didn't see that edited version.

Khan made the fight because he was the only one punching,but like in the Maidana fight he was moving backwards..

LOOOL, so Khan never came forward? Never had McCloskey backing up? Never landed clean, scoring punches? Never held his ground?


Ok, guys; my memory of the fight is pretty good, but I just reviewed the tape to make sure.

• Round 1; Khan spends the majority of the round inching forward, throwing jabs and pushing McCloskey back several times in the round with his combinations. Khan will back off at points, looking to time his bursts and not be wasteful against an awkward opponent, but, overall, it's McCloskey trying to feed off of Khan's aggression, looking to counter but throwing very little.
  Emmanuel Steward: "Khan is coming out so aggressive."
  
  
• Round 2; Khan comes out aggressively again and pushes McCloskey back onto the defensive with jabs and a clean right hand over the top. Instead of pursuing him to the corner, Khan backs off to draw McCloskey back to center-ring, then immediately attacks again and lands another clean right hand. McCloskey still throwing precious little. Khan lands jabs, a left-hook and more right hands in the round and also finds the body; he spends the majority of the round inching forward and pushing Paul back.
  
  
• Round 3; Khan is still inching forward and pushing McCloskey back with offense for the first minute of the round. McCloskey is defending capably, not shipping too much damage, but seems very apprehensive to throw. Emmanuel Steward: "Khan is fighting the perfect fight for this kind of fighter", meaning he's using measured aggression against an awkward, highly defensive style, "he's putting pressure on and throwing his volume of punches".
  Finally, at the halfway point in the round, as Khan is laying off, Paul comes forward with some kind of purpose and lands a decent left hand. The remainder of the round is a rinse/repeat cycle of Khan moving away, as McCloskey comes forward without throwing, and then pushing Paul back with bunches of shots. Khan even performs a neat evasive sidestep of McCloskey's left hand while landing his own flush as he flies out of McCloskey's vision, a move reminiscent of Pacquiao in his second fight with Marquez. As the round finishes, the fighters enter a clinch and McCloskey makes a flapping attempt at fighting inside, landing punches to the back of the head, before the official breaks them.
  
  
• Round 4; Khan comes out aiming hooks at head and body. For the first part of the round, he's inching McCloskey back again and throwing the volume of shots. When McCloskey moves his head, Khan is landing by making sure there's more than one punch for Paul to try to avoid.
  In the second part of the round, Paul decides to go for it and shows some actual aggression, coming forward and throwing punches, while Khan mostly circles away and occasionally flurries.
  
  
• Round 5; Khan comes out holding his ground in center-ring and soon pushes McCloskey back with a combination. McCloskey's continuing with his more concerted effort in this round, but pretty much every attack he mounts ends with him being pushed back by Khan's offensive bursts. Khan spends most of the last part of the round circling center-ring and outthrowing/outlanding McCloskey. Merchant: "Khan is fighting him smart as well as aggressive."
  
  
• Round 6; Lampley: "You saw the compubox numbers between rounds, which shows Khan throwing twice as many punches as McCloskey". Khan is not only throwing more than McCloskey, but his punches have been the more assertive and solid by far. Khan starts the round circling center-ring and knocking McCloskey back with offensive flurries. Now Khan's standing in center-ring with his gloves high, landing uppercuts up close. The fighters break, Khan comes forward, the heads clash, the fight ends.

LMAOOO, so, because Khan moved in and out and circled at intervals, he wasn't the aggressor in the fight? Khan wasn't the one looking for one big counter-punch in this fight, he spent a large part of it pressing the action on the front foot. And when Khan was going back, what did McCloskey do? There were only two rounds in the fight where you could say that McCloskey was actually aggressive at all.

I know you guys hate Khan and are desperate to discredit him, but this is some barrel-scraping argumentativeness, a weak-ass case at trying to support this fallacy that Khan "ran" from McCloskey.

Whether McCloskey was hard to tag cleanly or not, whether Khan circled and moved in and out or not, Khan was the one outpunching and outlanding McCloskey by far. Khan won every round by dint of the aggression he showed. I saw Khan being the aggressor live, the commentators and color-commentator saw Khan being the aggressor from their position - Khan was the aggressor, period.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Ey wasup MIB. I like Khan but I seriously think Judah can take him out. Albeit against a weaker opponent Judah some surprisingly good reflexes, head movement and defense. Pernell said the goal is too keep Zab from blowing his load early making himdangerous over a full 12.

[PRINCE O' PROSE]

Agreed, Zab's dangerous, and that's why I think it's another kind of proving fight for Khan; it's winnable, but he could be upset, too, and Judah is a really credible name to try to add to his record.

[sicko]

I think he knows how bad the McCloskey fight made him look, now he wants a EASY TARGET, someone that doesn't move around as much LOL

He will DUCK Zab! But he better not take Guerrero thinking that he will be a EASY MATCH and a EASY TARGET, The Ghost even at 140 is going to be HARD TO DEAL WITH!

[PRINCE O' PROSE]

McCloskey stands in front of you more, but he's hardly an easy target.


Zab is mobile, but still hittable. And Roach would modify the gameplan to show the right amount of caution.

[FerdinandMarcos]

McCloskey stands in front of you more, but he's hardly an easy target.


Zab is mobile, but still hittable. And Roach would modify the gameplan to show the right amount of caution.

As if Kahn isn't hittable.

Seems like Roach's fighters fall-in off balance a lot.

Against no-hoper McClosky...Kahn was swinging like a washerwoman and falling off balance like a fresh rookie.

[PRINCE O' PROSE]

As if Kahn isn't hittable.

And?


I was responding to the previous poster's assertion that McCloskey is automatically an easy target because he stands in front.


I also said that Roach would look to modify the gameplan and show Zab's power the correct amount of respect.


You're obsessed with Khan, man. Too obsessed to comment on any of this objectively. I already screwed up your claim that Khan "ran" from McCloskey and threw it in the trash - now you're looking for some other petty argument?


Count to ten, breathe, then come back and attempt to talk about boxing, not just who you hate.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Count to ten, breathe, then come back and attempt to talk about boxing, not just who you hate.

Hes not here to talk boxing. Hes here to talk race. I think he was gang ****d by a white guy, a latino and an asian. He doesnt like other races. He seems very angry at the world in general.

[PRINCE O' PROSE]

As if Kahn isn't hittable.

Seems like Roach's fighters fall-in off balance a lot.

Against no-hoper McClosky...Kahn was swinging like a washerwoman and falling off balance like a fresh rookie.

He was nowhere near as ragged and clumsy as you're making out.


It's a wholly different fight. Zab and McCloskey do not fight alike and Zab has a lot more power besides and speed to exploit any openings, so Roach and Khan would come with a gameplan that minimizes the risks.


If you check my previous accounts' post-history, you'll find I'm far from blind to Khan's flaws. You're way overstating them, though.

[apunchnotseen]

Amir Khan is a good fighter but will never be great. I'm a huge Morales fan, but I take his "win" over maidana with a grain of salt. Marcos takes a lickin and keeps ticking, but he is Baldimir all over again. It's funny cause I thought Morales' last stand was the 12th in the first pac fight. Khan is between a rock and a hard place, next fight has to be against a worthy opponent, but everyone available will most likely kick his ass. Prescott is the worst of the bunch, but he's also Khan's daddy, so talk it up while he can because by the end of the year he's an also ran.