how does shane getting beat and not fighting for 12 rounds expose manny??

[champ_kw]

A shot oldman that normally goes tow-to-toe with bellow average defense was able to defend himself against the best offensive boxer in the business. Whether Mosley was on a bicycle or not, that old man should have been KTFO, its the only reason he was in the ring against Manny. You can believe the leg cramps, car accident, over-trained, dehydrated stories all you want, Manny had trouble with an poorly defensive old man who simply moved his legs alot more than the statues he is used to facing.

Very well said....

[eklok]

Kinda how seeing Floyd "finally" get hit clean against Shane means he'll get knocked out against Pac? Talk about the bar being raised high....

props to mayweather for taking a big hit but your lying to yourself if you think he didnt buckled , he's leg wobbled and he had to hold , pac will do more damage than that

[KingOfBox]

Anyone saying Pac got exposed is delusional. I could understand if people said they saw many openings in Manny's defense because I sure did. But to imply that he got exposed is simply ridiculous. He was wide open at times because he was letting his hands go as he had no respect for Mosley after round 3. Also take into account that Shane wasn't throwing because he was scared. Shane wanted to survive and had no interest in fighting. How is this getting exposed??? He made the bigger man look like the little kid. It was like watching an 8th grader (Pac) fighting a tall *ss 6th grader (Shane)

[ProTrainer]

Manny fought perfectly. Fought in straight line to take away the counter left of Mosley. if he tried to cut off the ring going to his right well there you have it, why walk into Mosley's counter hook ? Shane landed 22 power shots and only threw 88. Manny waited to go toe to toe and Shane tasted his power and said HELL NO! Manny exposed Hopkins, Mosley, Floyd and ****m all at once.
Naz said there are 2 manny pacquiao's he was wrong there is 6.

[New England]

how does that even remotly make sense??

lol larry i thought you weren't going to feed into this stuff?


manny's performances as i look back at them have been become less and less impressive
for one, he's starting to fight no hopers
marquez has his number, but he's no WW
shane mosley is a shadow of what he used to be
likewise with margarito, who was still a sitting duck for hand speed in his prime
josh clottey didn't show up to fight
cotto is shot. he was game for four rounds until he got hit and hurt. in his prime that never happened. evidence aplenty that he's gone

he's looked good enough in these fights to remain the best fighter on the planet in my eyes
but it appears that he's losing at least a bit of his mental and physical edge

for one, he's now a congressman
any way you want to slice it that's going to detract from your commitment to boxing to some degree
it has to

two, and he's gone on the record saying this, he's satisfied with his legacy
he doesn't seem believe that he needs to be boxing or setting new standards (similar to his largely unprecedented rise in weight,) like taking on tougher opponents

in short he's not as hungry as he used to be
he's visibly lacking, at least to my eyes, in his old killer instincts to finish a man and defend himself, the true mark of a great fighter.

when hit he fights back hard as always, but it's not with the same intent to destroy

young, prime pacquiao loved to fight
you could see it in his eyes
he still loves to make people happy, but i'm confident that at least a part of the beast that made him so much greater than other physically gifted fighters is gone




all of this isn't set in stone of course. he's had a run of opponents that would make most fighters drool, but for the planet's greatest fighter they have been mediocre at best.
maybe he'll snap to attention in camp the second he has a live body in front of him

or even more likely, the second he gets rocked again and ****s his gloves together and then over his head


nothing would make me happier than being wrong if it meant manny's best days are in front of him
but i seriously doubt it

[hugh grant]

how does that even remotly make sense??

You'll find hundreds of threads on Pac that come out with as ****** a comments as this comment. This is a silly remark but there are worse comments than this.
With this comment you kind of understand what they are trying to say, but its words for effect to belittle Pac.

A more apt title would be
" Pac was shown to not be able to punch his opponents like they are punch bags for 12 rounds, and dont need referee rescuing you from further punishment, if you use the right survival tactics. SSM have proven it and show Floyd the way"

[Gutz]

if this fight exposed manny , god damn , then he's on a different level , the bar has been raised , i dont think theres any boxer that got exposed by winning a shut out

^^ Truth .. to bad *****s dont have this logic...

[killacash]

This thread easily shows who are the people who watch fights "just" to be entertained and those who watch to be entertained and to dissect and analyze a fight. For one, if you only watched the fight one time then your opinion is useless especially if you only watched the fight when it aired because you can't analyze a full fight from watching it one time. You must watch it multiple times to find flaws and bad habits.

Now im not going to go deep into this as most already covered the major problem Pacquaio had with Mosley. Yes, Pacquiao punch output drops with mobile fighters. He does not know how to cut the ring off and I didnt need to watch the Mosley fight to figure that out. You could tell in the Cotto fight when Cotto tried to box him. Pacquiao looked bored cause he couldnt hit him and thats the perfect time to capitalize on Pac.

He gets wild when he gets frustrated when he cant hit you. Those are the times where you counter him. Jab at the most, but move till he gets annoyed and frustrated then pick off shots and move. I dont buy that whole leg crap, just an excuse fighters use when they look bad, ex; his socks, or shoes. But dont get me wrong even with this gameplan, Pac still has fast counters of his own and can drop and hurt whoever at any given time. Thats why it is very important to lead jabs in his face and when he comes in just move to the side and repeat until he gets annoyed and wants to go for the kill then counter.

[pistol whip]

even though manny probably won every round there were still many rounds in the fight the were close, manny won rounds on bein the more active fighter thats it but another thing that the shane fight showed is that you can make manny fight your fight where as someone like floyd can make you fight how he wants you to fight

LOL! According to this guy rounds are close when a fighter goes into full retreat and doesn't throw punches.

Sorry the first round was the only round in the whole fight that was close. As soon as Shane went down he went into "run the *** aways from this guy" mode and spent the rest of the fight pawing with meaningless jabs.

[pistol whip]

This thread easily shows who are the people who watch fights "just" to be entertained and those who watch to be entertained and to dissect and analyze a fight. For one, if you only watched the fight one time then your opinion is useless especially if you only watched the fight when it aired because you can't analyze a full fight from watching it one time. You must watch it multiple times to find flaws and bad habits.

Now im not going to go deep into this as most already covered the major problem Pacquaio had with Mosley. Yes, Pacquiao punch output drops with mobile fighters. He does not know how to cut the ring off and I didnt need to watch the Mosley fight to figure that out. You could tell in the Cotto fight when Cotto tried to box him. Pacquiao looked bored cause he couldnt hit him and thats the perfect time to capitalize on Pac.

He gets wild when he gets frustrated when he cant hit you. Those are the times where you counter him. Jab at the most, but move till he gets annoyed and frustrated then pick off shots and move. I dont buy that whole leg crap, just an excuse fighters use when they look bad, ex; his socks, or shoes. But dont get me wrong even with this gameplan, Pac still has fast counters of his own and can drop and hurt whoever at any given time. Thats why it is very important to lead jabs in his face and when he comes in just move to the side and repeat until he gets annoyed and wants to go for the kill then counter.

Yeah wrong on everything you said here. None of what you said applies to Mosely in any way shape or form especially since everytime mosely attempted to counter he got whacked!