NFL player Ray Edwards says he is the next heavyweight champion?.

[any craic lad?]

Edwards vs Williams

Gridiron vs Rugby

make it happen

Sonny would kill him.Sonny Bill is actually decent

[Shogun99]

Emanuel Steward = Boxing Hall of Fame
posters here not so much

put both the Klitschko's in a dark alley with Ray Lewis i'll put my $ on Ray.

LMAO thats because you're a moron. Either Klit with one hand would **** Ray worse than that kickboxer ****d Bob Sapp. I am also sick to death of Americans putting their tongues on Lebron's testicles regarding any sport they don't excel at.

"But, but, if Lebron played soccer we would have won all the world cups by now".

Think of how many European and South American WW and MW champions there would be if there was no such sport as soccer. These what if arguments are ******ed and always come out of American mouths.

[madmadworld]

LMAO thats because you're a moron.

excuse me ma'am
did not know Klitschko's mom was on this board

[P.K]

Winning a championship is hardly getting owned...

Firstly Lesnar was in WWE, and did wrestling.

Secondly he got handed the belt, after 3 or 4 fights... with a loss to Mir already...

He was given it more or less because he sold. No Pro boxer gets a chance at 4 belts with only 4 fights or whatever.

The next thing is, boxing takes out everything from you, your heart, your stamina, the pain...

[Eaner0919]

I know he's hopeless, but this type of thing should be encouraged. It draws attention to the sport of boxing because people want to see if he can actually beat trained fighters. The entertainment value of these matches can't be denied.

I disagree

in a sense it brings our sport to an almost afterthought sideshow quality. Guys like Edwards think they can merely step over, act like their physical prowess is enough to beat guys like the Klitschkos, then proceed to look awful in a fight against another guy making his pro debut.

that's not entertainment unless you enjoy the Charlie Z like atmosphere of boxing where delusion overrides reality

and if this was an entertaining curiosity I would think this would have played out on a bigger more grandiose stage and to much hoopla than the ballroom he fought in.

[King Ghidorah]

http://ironforgesiron.com/2011/05/ks...pson-teh-vids/

World's Strongest Man's Punches against a glass jaw fighter.....



















Anyways "I'll break the Batman's back!" - Bane

[Eaner0919]

His first fight.

But i do agree that the Klits beat his ass whenever.

But you can't criticize his debut.

sure we can I mean how could we not? If we can criticize guys like Rooney Jr who made his pro debut on ESPN and looked less than stellar then surely a guy who hyped himself up as much as Edwards did should be subject to praise and criticism

he looked awful, like a big athlete from another who thinks boxing is a nice side job.

[Evil Abed]

sure we can I mean how could we not? If we can criticize guys like Rooney Jr who made his pro debut on ESPN and looked less than stellar then surely a guy who hyped himself up as much as Edwards did should be subject to praise and criticism

he looked awful, like a big athlete from another who thinks boxing is a nice side job.

I never criticized Rooney.

A debut is nerve racking for anyone.

Especially for a guy with limited to no amateur experience.

I don't think you can tell what a fighter really has until they fought about 10 to 15 times.

They need to get comfortable.

Some guys have that pedigree and talent out the gate,

Other guys need a good deal of seasoning.

and sum are bums.

It can be hard to tell the difference between the last two after there first fight. IMO

[Eaner0919]

I never criticized Rooney.

A debut is nerve racking for anyone.

Especially for a guy with limited to no amateur experience.

I don't think you can tell what a fighter really has until they fought about 10 to 15 times.

They need to get comfortable.

Some guys have that pedigree and talent out the gate,

Other guys need a good deal of seasoning.

and sum are bums.

It can be hard to tell the difference between the last two after there first fight. IMO

I never stated you but if you throw out a blanket statement that we cannot criticize someone for making their debut I can ask the question why not?

especially a guy who has called attention to himself in the manner that Edwards did.

let's face it he isn't going to make this his career so there should be no reason why we need to assess what he may become because we all know the moment the NFL comes back he will be on the gridiron with boxing in the rear view.

so taken like that I think it only just to criticize what I see in front of me simply because I know we won't see him plying this craft to the point where we see a serious boxer in Edwards

[Evil Abed]

I never stated you but if you throw out a blanket statement that we cannot criticize someone for making their debut I can ask the question why not?

especially a guy who has called attention to himself in the manner that Edwards did.

let's face it he isn't going to make this his career so there should be no reason why we need to assess what he may become because we all know the moment the NFL comes back he will be on the gridiron with boxing in the rear view.

so taken like that I think it only just to criticize what I see in front of me simply because I know we won't see him plying this craft to the point where we see a serious boxer in Edwards

I don't pay attention to self hype and other BS.

If guy wants to step into the ring I will treat him like a fighter and judge him on what happens in the ring.

That's why I was never over critical of Benavindez. Its too early to judge him.

He might jump straight back to football or he might stay. He said he'll do both. But i won't let that effect My opinion of him as fighter.

I think when your in the ring your like everyone else. Talk, hype etc....

That's my opinion.

But I understand your point of view.