Comments Thread For: Pacquiao's Adviser Talks Marquez Trilogy, Steroid Claims

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Keep rambling on...Is obvious you don't know me as a poster...But, keep going...Elaborate more please.

Your a poster that wont engage on this subject because the facts are against you , but you like the last say so you just keep coming with nothing , say there was a hypothetical court case questioning Mannys validly after the JMM fight , your gunna get your ass handed to you because you have nothing but hype , while on the other hand there is factual road of manipulating fights to advantage Manny ,,, just the way it is buddy , you cant change the truth only turn a blind eye to it .

[jrosales13]

Your a poster that wont engage on this subject because the facts are against you , but you like the last say so you just keep coming with nothing , say there was a hypothetical court case questioning Mannys validly after the JMM fight , your gunna get your ass handed to you because you have nothing but hype , while on the other hand there is factual road of manipulating fights to advantage Manny ,,, just the way it is buddy , you cant change the truth only turn a blind eye to it .

You're an idiot

Ok, Pac is steroid abuser, has fights in catch-weights and has fought hand picked old fighters. Now what? What's your point?

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You're an idiot

Ok, Pac is steroid abuser, has fights in catch-weights and has fought hand picked old fighters. Now what? What's your point?

You keep proving what Im saying , you got nothing !!

[jrosales13]

You keep proving what Im saying , you got nothing !!

History will remember Pac as a great fighter. Truth the boxing world doesn't care about the steroid abuse. They're OK with it, they're more than OK with it. You really think Pac is the only one doping? How naive are you? Pac with or without PED's is a special fighter. Pac will go down if not the greatest, one of the greatest fighter of this era.

4 lineal titles, none at catch-weight. Only fighter in history to win a lineal title at flyweight and featherweight, 2 of the original 8-weight-classes. That's over a 100 years of history.

Catch-weights has always been apart of boxing. Right or wrong it has always been apart of boxing. Nobody thinks any less of Villa-McLarnin fight that was at a catch-weight 100 years ago.

You think Roy Jones will have some sort of asterisk getting his fighter of the decade? After being busted for doping? No...History won't care about that.

Evander Holyfield will go down as one of the greatest warriors of the modern era. Doping or not that's how he's going to be remembered. There will be no shadow on his legacy right or wrong.

Same thing goes for Oscar and Mosley. Both will be first ballot HOF'ers.

Even great fighters from the 40's who were involved in fix fights get praises now. It just the way it is. Right or wrong that's how it is.

You letting your hatred get the best of you...Why?

I repeat, OK, Pac is a ducker, a PED abuser, catch-weight king, womanizer, child abuser, only win fix fights, overrated, overhyped, one dimensional, garbage of fighter, now what? What's your point? He's now seen as a great fighter. Damn near everybody in the media loves the guy. That won't change anytime soon. And, guess what if he's busted for PED's...Why would be different from Roy and Holy getting busted? Right or wrong the sport of boxing and the boxing media doesn't care.

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And what did "performance enhancements" do for Vargus besides get him the *** KNOCKED OUT by Oscar????? And what wonders did they do for Mosley besides make him look worse the second time against Oscar?????

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And what did "performance enhancements" do for Vargus besides get him the *** KNOCKED OUT by Oscar????? And what wonders did they do for Mosley besides make him look worse the second time against Oscar?????

That is so lame you know how many wins have come form PEDS ,,, trouble with Vargas is there was no CW .

[Bee Keepz]

So Mayweather's camp sought Conte's advice and Conte said five days, but it wasn't good enough sounds like. Crazy thing is it must've been put out there for Pacquiao to agree to it.

Victor Conte - "I would not want to single-out Manny Pacquiao because I have no direct evidence that he has used any performance enhancing drugs. That being said, I think we need to be su****ious of everybody at the elite level. What he's doing, to go from the lower weight divisions up to many divisions higher and maintain his speed and power- is that su****ious? Yes it is. But are there people throughout Olympic or professional sports history that are just genetic freaks and have a mindset that's powerful, and I guess the question is, 'Could you do what Manny Pacquiao does?' or 'Could other fighters do what Manny Pacquiao does and be clean?', I believe with hard-tech nutrition and training and these other available methods like this intermittent hypoxic training which has some of the benefits, the same benefits you would receive from using EPO, I believe it can be done."

"I don't think Manny should be singled-out until some specific information comes forward indicating that he has used performance enhancing drugs."

"I was contacted by people associated with Floyd Mayweather when they were having the judge arbitrate how to come up with a (drug testing) program and what I recommended and I clearly understand Manny Pacquiao is not the first athlete that has had an adverse psychological response to having their blood drawn. Asafa Powell from Jamaica for many years was the world record holder for the 100-meters, the world's fastest human, in Beijing said that he was affected by having his blood drawn before the 100-meters there. Not it may only be psychological, but it's a valid explanation. Some people don't like it and it has an effect upon them,"

"I think you got to take it a step at a time. And I don't think you can just walk in and take over the sport and implement Olympic caliber testing by USADA all at the same time. I think you have to compromise, you have to look at the specifics of boxing and you have to develop a program that is tailor-made for the sport of boxing, so I suggested 5 days out because there are certain things you can do to more easily circumvent as opposed to using the 14-day or the 24-day out as a cut-off for testing. I would recommend 5 days, but if you're hungry a half loaf of bread is better than none and I think you need to compromise. And I don't think it's ever going to be perfect,"

"Manny Pacquiao has now came up and said that he is willing to do the testing all the way up to 14 days before, my opinion is, they need to make this fight. Let's get it on. That's a compromise that should be accepted by Mayweather and all parties concerned need to understand just because Manny Pacquiao agreed to do the USADA testing and do what Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather did doesn't necessarily mean they're clean."

"People that are determined to cheat could still use drugs and like I say, you can sign the fight today and start testing five weeks before the fight, who's to say they're not both using anabolic steroids for months? For months and months that you do a series of cycles of steroids you can still maintain that benefit and improvement in performance. We don't live in a perfect world, I think you need to compromise. I would like to see, for the benefit of all those in the world of boxing, I would like to see Floyd Mayweather agree to a 14-day drug testing that Manny Pacquiao said he would comply with and let's bring this fight."

"For whatever claims they said about Floyd being drug testing for the Mosley fight, he was tested 19 days before the fight. Let's get real here. Floyd's saying my way or the highway, well that's BS. It's got to be a compromise and there's never going 100% (accurate test) and we need to acknowledge that and I think Manny has made an effort to compromise and move to Floyd's direction and I think Manny needs to be applauded for that."

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"That's why him and my nephew never fought, because he didn't want to take the test himself. He said he would take a test five days out," said Roger Mayweather. "Who in the hell would do that? Aint no such thing as taking a test five days out. You can take the test the day before the fight, that's it. The rest of that stuff don't mean nothing."

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So Mayweather's camp sought Conte's advice and Conte said five days, but it wasn't good enough sounds like. Crazy thing is it must've been put out there for Pacquiao to agree to it.

Wasnt good enough ? at the time Pac said no anyway to 14 days !

Thing is , why is Pac even trying to water down or duck the test for 50mill and the biggest fight in history = maybe using PEDS , saying no he must now be tested .

[jrosales13]

That is so lame you know how many wins have come form PEDS ,,, trouble with Vargas is there was no CW .

But, there was one against Hopkins...Now what? Is that going to keep him off the HOF?

[Squizz]

And again, where is the precedence for Pacquiao to take a PED's test when his entire career he has been tested negative.

Yeah, same with Shane Mosley. So you fail there bud. And that's where I stopped reading your post. Next?