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  • [ DUBBZZ ]
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    #21
    Originally posted by Saddlebred
    Men who fight professionally for a living were so scared of Manny "Pacmen" Pacquiao that they fear to even utter his name...I almost believe that lol...the sad thing is that you're serious
    Not saying they're scared, I'm saying fighting Floyd would just make more sense. Everyone expects you to lose, big payday, and the chances of getting seriously hurt are less likely.

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    • megadeth
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      #22
      Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
      Floyd ducked the hell out of Kostya Tszyu. That was the beginning of Floyd's ducking tendencies. Don't forget that.
      Funny, I thought he called Koztya Tszyu out on national television.

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        #23
        Originally posted by megadeth
        Funny, I thought he called Koztya Tszyu out on national television.
        It's kind of like the way Floyd calls out Pac on national television, but somehow the fight doesn't get made. Same concept. But, there's a great thread on this from way back that will clear it up for you.

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        • megadeth
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          #24
          Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
          It's kind of like the way Floyd calls out Pac on national television, but somehow the fight doesn't get made. Same concept. But, there's a great thread on this from way back that will clear it up for you.
          You and everyone else knows that Pac walked away from at least 1 negotiation when Mayweather gave a fair offer, so if that's the same concept, I don't get your point. The fight hasn't happen because of Pac, not Floyd.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
            Floyd ducked the hell out of Kostya Tszyu. That was the beginning of Floyd's ducking tendencies. Don't forget that.


            2005, too bad shortly after that call-out[same year], Hatton beat Tszyu and Tszyu hasn't fought ever since, retired right after the Hatton fight. Mosley had a toothache, and DLH didn't want to do business with Bob Arum[Floyd Mayweather's promoter at the time of this video].

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              #26
              Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
              It's kind of like the way Floyd calls out Pac on national television, but somehow the fight doesn't get made. Same concept. But, there's a great thread on this from way back that will clear it up for you.
              There's no need for a great thread, Kostya Tszyu lost to Hatton, that's why the fight didn't get made. Instead Mayweather-Hatton was made 1 year and half later, of course, DLH comes first since that was the sole reason why Mayweather left Top Rank in the first place. A Mayweather-DLH fight fell through in 2006, Mayweather instead fought the #1 WW/WBC champ/Lineal champ Carlos Baldomir in the meantime because DLH signed to fight Mayorga who was WBC 154 champ, and DLH beat him to become champion. Then Mayweather-DLH was finally signed at 154 for Oscar's WBC title. Stop spewing lies already.

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                #27
                Typo: 2 years and half later.

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                • Wiley Hyena
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood


                  2005, too bad shortly after that call-out[same year], Hatton beat Tszyu and Tszyu hasn't fought ever since, retired right after the Hatton fight. Mosley had a toothache, and DLH didn't want to do business with Bob Arum[Floyd Mayweather's promoter at the time of this video].
                  I replay a popular old threadstarter. Pull it up yourself for the responses.

                  Mayweather and the 5 Bums

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                  After seeing the incredible allegations of a few Mayweatherites here alleging that the great Jr. Welter Weight Champ Kostya Tszyu ran from Floyd Mayweather, Jr., I was inspired to set the record straight. My findings:

                  After a truly impressive campaign at 130, Floyd moved to 135 in 2002. The problem began here and it's name was Jose Luis Castillo. After losing to Castillo on everybody's card but the judges' in the first fight, Mayweather used his defensive skills to salvage his reputation in the rematch. After that scare, Mayweather then proceeded to call on the hapless Lovemore N'dou. N'dou unexpectedly proved a stiff test, but Floyd passed it. Bum number one was conquered. Who would the self proclaimed greatest fight next? We were immediately deflated. Sosa was served up like a cold fish on April 19, 2003.

                  Fully in stride now, Mayweather moved up to Jr. Welter (140), where hall of famer Kostya Tszyu reigned supreme. Instead of calling on Tszyu, Floyd proceeded to feed on a steady diet of bums. On May 22, 2004, it was Demarcus Corley. On January 22, 2005, it was Henry Bruseles. And, on June 25, 2005, Floyd dismantled the last of the 5 bums, the washed up warrior, Arturo Gatti. 5 bums and no Tszyu.

                  Tszyu fought in 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2005. He was top ten p4p in all those years. He began that period of time as the Jr. Welter Weight unified undisputed champion (the first to do it in 30 years). During the mid portion of that period he held two titles, and finally lost the IBF title to Ricky Hatton in June 2005. He retired after that fight at age 36. During this period, there were no serious inquiries from the Floyd camp about a fight against Tszyu. Cheap talk, no walk.

                  After initially posting my opinion that it was Floyd that ran, not Tszyu, I became the subject of a veritable deluge of outrage, criticism, and lewd (but somewhat entertaining) invective by certain Mayweatherites on this site. I want to thank each and every foul mouthed one of you. You inspired me to PROVE my opinion with evidence, evidence of which you said was non-existent. Mr. Dios Dominicano and his gang maintain that Tszyu never, I repeat NEVER, made one single statement indicating his desire to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. and thus somehow "ran" from Floyd.

                  Exhibit #1: KOSTYA TSZYU DENIES DEAL TO FIGHT HATTON

                  According to a recent report by GRANTLEE KIEZA, Kostya Tszyu has again confirmed there is no deal to fight hard-hitting Englishman Ricky Hatton for $5million. Two weeks ago Tszyu told The Daily Telegraph exclusively that he wasn't fighting Hatton on March 5 in Manchester as the British press had announced and was forced to repeat his position yesterday after reports out of England saying a deal had been made.

                  Before heading off to his native Russia to collect a major award from President Vladimir *****, Tszyu said yesterday: "I am not fighting Ricky Hatton in Manchester anytime soon.

                  "I can't believe Hatton's promoter [Frank Warren] is still saying I am fighting him because there has been no deal made.

                  "Right now I am having a holiday for a few weeks and just enjoying time with my wife and kids. When it is time to fight again we will see who is on offer. But I promised my family I would not be training over Christmas so I will certainly not be fighting again by March."

                  When told that Warren said he had a verbal agreement with Tszyu's American-based promoter Vlad Warton, Tszyu smiled and said: "I decide who I fight, no one else."

                  Tszyu said he was far more interested in an offer of $10.5 million from American promoter Murad Muhammad to fight WBC champion Arturo Gatti and former world junior-lightweight and lightweight champion Floyd Mayweather.

                  "I want to fight them both," Tszyu said. "They mean a lot more on the world scene than Ricky Hatton."

                  12-14-2004
                  kostya-tszyu-news.newslib.com/story/2381-1113289/

                  Exhibit #2: KOSTYA TSZYU INTERVIEW

                  Scoop: Comment on fighting Floyd Mayweather...

                  Kostya Tszyu: "It would be a great fight. I fought his uncle (Roger-W 12 in '95 in Newcastle, Australia) who's training him now. It would be good to fight him too. I remember after Olympic Games ('96) we were in same room as Bob Arum, he just started his career. I already was world champion. It would be a good, good matchup. If the short time will be able to produce this match, it will be a great fight."

                  October 25, 2004
                  www.********boxing.com/news.php?p=2064&more=1

                  ARGUMENT:
                  Just as I always said, Tszyu was always open to any top contender at 140, ESPECIALLY Floyd. Floyd simply did not want any piece of Tszyu. Who knows, maybe uncle Roger didn't like the idea?

                  You will note that Tszyu destroyed Sharmba Mitchell (4 knockdowns and KO in the 3rd) on November 6, 2004. Tszyu remained unsigned and available to take a fight with Floyd for roughly two months after that fight. Mayweather didn't sign to fight Gatti until after January 30, 2005.

                  Unfortunately for boxing, DURING THIS TIME PERIOD Floyd never muttered a word. Instead of going after one of the greatest 140 champions of modern times, Floyd signed to fight the fifth installment in our gallery of bums, Arturo Gatti. There was no mention of Tszyu. There were no inquiries about getting the fight. There was nothing but a resounding wall of silence. Result? Tszyu signed to fight Ricky Hatton, and the rest is history.

                  This is evidence. Floyd can talk it up all he wants AFTER the fact. It doesn't matter. The self proclaimed "greatest of all time" skipped out on a real fight of historical proportions against the man.

                  I present to you, "The Theory of the 5 Bums."

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                  • daggum
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by megadeth
                    Funny, I thought he called Koztya Tszyu out on national television.
                    is this the wwe or something? i'm calling you out do you accept the challenge yarrrrg! what did he do to actually make the fight? oh that's right nothing. he fought 2 eliminators just to get a gatti fight because he knew it was an easy fight. why didn't he fight in any eliminators to fight tszyu who was the champ of the division? he wouldn't even need to fight in any eliminators to make that fight because tsyzu wanted it as opposed to gatti who didn't want to make the fight unless he had to. oh well.
                    Last edited by daggum; 05-16-2011, 11:47 PM.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by pacfan
                      okay. months. where is floyd?
                      where is manny? Oh I know too much gap huh?? the filipino pride scared to take a non catch weight fight and scared to fight someone coming from a win hahahah

                      But when pac faces JMM at catch weight I guess the weight issue won't be a problem for you pacfarts

                      pac ducked all of them fighters from top rank when they had a good run..once they lose and become damaged goods uncle bob gives pac a shot to beat those bumms at catch weight of course

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