Just a question, why is it that the only fighters that they say Floyd has "ducked"...

[BoZz]

boxing fans realize now that pac is nothing more than a fake ***ish product who hasn't fought anyone legit since he got whooped by JMM

[BoZz]

everyone who has to fight pacquiao has to be on a diet too while he's enjoying those milk shakes ariza is giving him..common duckqiao if you love your pacfarts so much why not lose a bit of weight and fight JMM at a good weight or gain a few extra pounds to face martinez???? Common ducky you are the humble filipino pride who would do anything for his fans but guess what ? Your fans don't care about boxing so you can do what ever you want with them

[Wiley Hyena]

is this the wwe or something? i'm calling you out do you accept the challenge yarrrrg! what did he do to actually make the fight? oh that's right nothing. he fought 2 eliminators just to get a gatti fight because he knew it was an easy fight. why didn't he fight in any eliminators to fight tszyu who was the champ of the division? he wouldn't even need to fight in any eliminators to make that fight because tsyzu wanted it as opposed to gatti who didn't want to make the fight unless he had to. oh well.

Agreed. Mayweather ran right around Tszyu. And, it was the smartest move he ever made. Here was a boxer that could have turned out Floyd's lights...and Floyd knew it.

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There's no need for a great thread, Kostya Tszyu lost to Hatton, that's why the fight didn't get made. Instead Mayweather-Hatton was made 1 year and half later, of course, DLH comes first since that was the sole reason why Mayweather left Top Rank in the first place. A Mayweather-DLH fight fell through in 2006, Mayweather instead fought the #1 WW/WBC champ/Lineal champ Carlos Baldomir in the meantime because DLH signed to fight Mayorga who was WBC 154 champ, and DLH beat him to become champion. Then Mayweather-DLH was finally signed at 154 for Oscar's WBC title. Stop spewing lies already.

Floyd was terrified of Margarito. He was struck by fear.

Floyd was still on Arum stable when the offer was on the table for 8 million to fight Margarito. Floyd said they won't be ready by August since he supposedly hurt his hand against Judah. Sensing the Margarito fight is inevitable, Floyd opted out his contract from Arum and fought Baldomir instead. Margarito was chasing him around and all Floyd pulled are excuses with stuttering speech pattern.

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Agreed. Mayweather ran right around Tszyu. And, it was the smartest move he ever made. Here was a boxer that could have turned out Floyd's lights...and Floyd knew it.

Please lets not make up stuff. Unlike most of this board I watched boxing back then so that comment wont get by me. Floyd respected Kostya and admired him as one of his favorite fighters and he WANTED him BADLY.

It was because of the HBO/Showtime issue. Floyd didnt duck him stop making up stuff.

This is a little detail from the HBO/Showitme when Gatti-Kostya was what people wanted:

"Well, Tszyu fights exclusively for the Showtime network and Gatti has been an HBO staple for years. But HBO doesn't have an exclusive multi-fight deal with Gatti and it isn't out of the realm of possibility for Gatti to go over to Showtime. But the only problem with that scenario is that Showtime- whose budget has always been significantly smaller than HBO's- is going through budget cuts in it's boxing department. It's highly doubtful that Showtime could come up with the needed money to make that fight.

There are rumors throughout the industry that Showtime would be willing to let Tszyu fight on HBO for a fee since they wouldn't be able to make that fight anyway. But there would still be a question if HBO would be willing to put up the necessary licensing fee to make that fight on their 'Championship Boxing' series. This fight may have to go on pay-per-view, which is always a risk since there would be no guaranteed money for the fighters at that point.

Another problem in making that fight is that both fighters on their respective networks make huge money and don't really need to meet each other to hit the jackpot. Which means that if they were to face off, they would have to be paid significantly - which means in the neighborhood of two million big ones. If not, Gatti and his people are perfectly content to keep fighting on HBO and make a million bucks. For the rematch with Micky Ward, he got around $1.2 million and you can assume he will make right around that same amount in June when his next HBO fight comes up. The same applies to Tszyu on Showtime.

And then there's this quandary, while Tszyu has all the belts, it's Gatti that has the box-office appeal in the United States. Tszyu hasn't come close to being embraced by the American public, while Gatti has been a fan favorite for years. So the question is, what is the more forceful negotiating chip- the titles or the ability to draw?

You can guarantee that both managements would argue their points till they were blue in the face. The jr. welterweight division is loaded from top to bottom but clearly this would be the marquee fight in this weight class. But with the advanced age of both boxers, you get the feeling that if it isn't made by this fall, we may never see Tszyu-Gatti. "


So again. Lets not make up stuff.

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boxing fans realize now that pac is nothing more than a fake ***ish product who hasn't fought anyone legit since he got whooped by JMM

So Pacquiao is just a fake ***ish product.

Then why do Floyd need OST again?

Please keep it real

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Please lets not make up stuff. Unlike most of this board I watched boxing back then so that comment wont get by me. Floyd respected Kostya and admired him as one of his favorite fighters and he WANTED him BADLY.

It was because of the HBO/Showtime issue. Floyd didnt duck him stop making up stuff.

This is a little detail from the HBO/Showitme when Gatti-Kostya was what people wanted:

"Well, Tszyu fights exclusively for the Showtime network and Gatti has been an HBO staple for years. But HBO doesn't have an exclusive multi-fight deal with Gatti and it isn't out of the realm of possibility for Gatti to go over to Showtime. But the only problem with that scenario is that Showtime- whose
budget has always been significantly smaller than HBO's- is going through budget cuts in it's boxing department. It's highly doubtful that Showtime could
come up with the needed money to make that fight.

There are rumors throughout the industry that Showtime would be willing to let Tszyu fight on HBO for a fee since they wouldn't be able to make that fight
anyway. But there would still be a question if HBO would be willing to put up the necessary licensing fee to make that fight on their 'Championship Boxing'
series. This fight may have to go on pay-per-view, which is always a risk since there would be no guaranteed money for the fighters at that point.

Another problem in making that fight is that both fighters on their respective
networks make huge money and don't really need to meet each other to hit
the jackpot. Which means that if they were to face off, they would have to be
paid significantly - which means in the neighborhood of two million big ones. If
not, Gatti and his people are perfectly content to keep fighting on HBO and
make a million bucks. For the rematch with Micky Ward, he got around $1.2
million and you can assume he will make right around that same amount in
June when his next HBO fight comes up. The same applies to Tszyu on
Showtime.

And then there's this quandary, while Tszyu has all the belts, it's Gatti that has
the box-office appeal in the United States. Tszyu hasn't come close to being
embraced by the American public, while Gatti has been a fan favorite for years.
So the question is, what is the more forceful negotiating chip- the titles or the
ability to draw?

You can guarantee that both managements would argue their points till they
were blue in the face. The jr. welterweight division is loaded from top to
bottom but clearly this would be the marquee fight in this weight class. But
with the advanced age of both boxers, you get the feeling that if it isn't made
by this fall, we may never see Tszyu-Gatti. "

So again. Lets not make up stuff.

Cut your BS, Sweat Pea and JCC fought each other and they are from different network. Floyd just does not want to anything with Zoo.