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  • #51
    Originally posted by MCCCXXXIII View Post
    Your logic is both infantile and greatly flawed Naz is an impartial bystander when it comes to Pac vs Mayweather he is able to give his honest opinion without any backlash that could potential effect his own career.

    When it is his fighter in question of course he has to go with his fighter, imagine the build up to Pac, Mosley or Mayweather, Mosley if Naz came out and said ‘’well you know my guy hasn’t really got much of a chance here’’.

    Do you know what kind of implications that would create Naz would have the promoters pissed off with him, his fighter would no doubt part company with him the fight would take a huge hit and less fans would buy it, it would just make him look bad.

    Discrediting a world class trainers opinion on a fight based on the fact he wrongly predicted his own fighter to win a different fight is ridiculous.
    even an impartial bystander can make a wrong call, which is what i believe Nazeem did.

    not agreeing with a world class trainer's opinion because of his wrong prediction isn't ridiculous.

    I believe that Nazeem read Mosley wrong, he read Floyd wrong and lastly, he underestimated Pac. is it any wonder then that i question his analysis of the potential outcome of a Pac/Floyd fight?

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    • #52
      Originally posted by AFighter4U View Post
      even an impartial bystander can make a wrong call, which is what i believe Nazeem did.

      not agreeing with a world class trainer's opinion because of his wrong prediction isn't ridiculous.

      I believe that Nazeem read Mosley wrong, he read Floyd wrong and lastly, he underestimated Pac. is it any wonder then that i question his analysis of the potential outcome of a Pac/Floyd fight?
      There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with his opinion but suggesting his opinion is not valid based on him picking HIS fighter to win fights...yes that’s ridiculous.

      I don’t think Naz underestimated Pac whatsoever but Mosley is a 40 year old man who hadn’t won a fight for over 2 years and wanted his last pay day.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Check_hooks View Post
        Shane was running from Pac the entire fight and he never looked worse during the post fight press conference.

        Shane stood right in front of Floyd the entire fight and was never hurt, rocked and had ZERO swelling or bruises on his face during the post fight press conference.

        Naazim implied that he exposed Mayweather (when Shane rocked him), not Pacquiao.
        Watch it again hater.

        Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
        SSM never got hit like that during the rest of the fight, but he also didnt win no points victory.

        FLoyd gets hit like that in the 3rd round and starts running like SSM, he also dont win no points decison.
        Did he run when Mosley hit him? Pac wont be landing shot after shot on Mayweather so there's no danger. The deal is if Mosley can avoid punishment then Floyd can do the same while dishing out some too. Easy work.

        Originally posted by Come∂ian View Post
        Roach trained De La Hoya and predicted he could beat Floyd

        Thanks for a little (un)common sense.

        Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502 View Post
        I just think Naseem sort of said something that when you think of it is really ridiculous.

        If Mosley was hitting back and winning some rounds and being somewhat competitive, then I would agree. All Mosley was doing was running, I mean that is the perfect example of running and running for your life for 12 rounds.

        I think I saw 1 right hand of any type of significance land on Manny, that's just a shame.

        Mosley should be completely embarrassed for what he did, he robbed the fans of a better fight and shamed himself as a fighter.

        Mayweather would be able to adjust but he can't run to UD and that's where it gets interesting.
        He wont have to run. Pac is smaller and reaches a lot. Floyd will only need that jab and a stiff quick uppercut to dispose of Pac. Its gonna be a one sided beating. As for Shane saying thats the hardest he's been hit.........Thats a lie......You're just shot out Sugar. Forrest almost separated his head from his shoulders. Gotta admit.....Even in victory Pac looked sloppy and over anxious.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by MCCCXXXIII View Post
          There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with his opinion but suggesting his opinion is not valid based on him picking HIS fighter to win fights...yes that’s ridiculous.

          I don’t think Naz underestimated Pac whatsoever but Mosley is a 40 year old man who hadn’t won a fight for over 2 years and wanted his last pay day.
          true, its totally natural to pick your own fighter to win.

          BUT.

          Mosley's last two fights? TOTAL domination of his fighter. (well maybe except for the 2nd round when Shane ALMOST got floyd).

          NONE of their strategies worked, and mosley was embarrassed both times.

          i would believe that Nazeem read those fighters right if Mosley at least was competitive to some degree... but he simply wasn't. In BOTH fights.

          if you make an analysis using faulty information, you will most likely end up with the wrong conclusion, which is what i believe Nazeem did with these fighters.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by studentofthegam View Post

            He wont have to run. Pac is smaller and reaches a lot. Floyd will only need that jab and a stiff quick uppercut to dispose of Pac. Its gonna be a one sided beating. As for Shane saying thats the hardest he's been hit.........Thats a lie......You're just shot out Sugar. Forrest almost separated his head from his shoulders. Gotta admit.....Even in victory Pac looked sloppy and over anxious.
            I think you are grossly underestimating Pac. Look I agree, I think Mayweather wins but the same old Mosley touched him not once, TWICE with a very hard right hand that could have changed that fight completely.

            The thing with Pac isn't his boxing or lack of boxing skills, it's his physicality and endurance that wins, you know this.

            His movement, non stop punching is why this fight is so intriguing. It will not be an easy fight like you think, it's never an easy fight when facing Pacqauio.

            Pac can take a serious punch, moves extremely well and i don't see Mayweather at 147lbs hurting Pac.

            The worst part if the pro Mayweather and pro Pac fans are so biased its almost not even worth having this discussion.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502 View Post
              I think you are grossly underestimating Pac. Look I agree, I think Mayweather wins but the same old Mosley touched him not once, TWICE with a very hard right hand that could have changed that fight completely.

              The thing with Pac isn't his boxing or lack of boxing skills, it's his physicality and endurance that wins, you know this.

              His movement, non stop punching is why this fight is so intriguing. It will not be an easy fight like you think, it's never an easy fight when facing Pacqauio.

              Pac can take a serious punch, moves extremely well and i don't see Mayweather at 147lbs hurting Pac.

              The worst part if the pro Mayweather and pro Pac fans are so biased its almost not even worth having this discussion.
              well, one thing you could say for sure is that BOTH floyd and Pac fans would love to see them duke it out in the ring.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by wazaa. View Post



                Naazim nailed it. If limited Shane was able to adapt and avoid getting hit (like he got in the 3rd round) again, how do you think Manny will handle the way Floyd adapts in fights?
                if the fight is so easy, then why won't duckweather sign to fight?

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                  if the fight is so easy, then why won't duckweather sign to fight?
                  He signed the contract but it was Manny who didn't sind his end of the contract back in '10. Floyd is gonna show his contract on the next FightHype video.

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                  • #59
                    You know in a way i understand what brother nazeem is saying

                    But the fact is, Pacquiao battered shane, and won every round.....and knocked him down, shane ran the whole fight

                    And you could see pacs legs wernt as good as they usually are....If pacs leg was fine, I bet he would have stopped shane

                    Also...at least shane has a huge right hand, If pac faught mayweather, pac has nothing to be scared of....hes just gonna jump at him and throw combination and not care about being caught....

                    Hope that fight happens...its a real 50/50

                    I dont think Shane exposed anything that people already didnt know

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                    • #60
                      What I see is... Pacq in the middle of the ring taunting Mayw to come out and fight like a man.... I see Mayw maybe trying a couple times until Pacq hits him.... then right back into move and avoid mode. Not saying MayW wouldnt or couldnt Win.. This fight could go either way!! We all can theorize and hypothesize what Could happen, But In reality.. Too many things can happen in this fight for EITHER GUY.. As a fan of the BEST combat Sport BOXING.. I just want to see it done. All agreed, both sides. ALL BS ASIDE. NO excuses. Both to just man up and say.. lets do it.. we respect each other.. May the Best Man win..... witha REMATCH CLAUSE... cuz im sure Fans on both sides will be kicking and shouting afterwards... regardless of who wins no matter how wide or close the actual fight is.

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