After Watching Ward How Can Anyone Say He Should Be Above Wlad P4P

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  • ikim322
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    #11
    Originally posted by The Surgeon
    Wlad imho is a decent fighter, great power, good jab and not bad speed but to me he cant be a p4p guy because im of the opinion he only wins most of his fights due to his size advantages, if say David Haye was 6'7 with a frame like Wlad there would be no debate who would win, Haye would be an over whelming favourite
    Your ******ity boggles the mind. Nice argument there. If Haye were bigger he'd win!!! How about this...If Pacquaio suddenly grew a foot and packed on 100 lbs while retaining how he fights....he'd DESTROY Wlad. No contest!!!!

    No but seriously. Just stfu and think before you post.

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    • FerdinandMarcos
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      #12
      Originally posted by ChopperRead
      Doesn't negate the point that they would be massive in the US and any perceived flaws they have overlooked if they were two American boys from Cleveland.

      Anyone remotely objective knows this is the truth.
      I don't see any Black fighters from Cleveland or anywhere else getting any love from the US media.

      WHERE ARE ALL THESE BLACK FIGHTERS GETTING LAVISHED BY AMERICA'S ANTI-WHITE MEDIA???

      The Klit brothers better be glad their boring asses aren't Black Americans....if a guy with Floyd's skills gets ****ted on by America's media.....they'd get shredded if they were Black

      Black fighters suffer the most for lack of a fanbase....yet....for some reason....you're here acting like they get all this love.

      C'mon now ...

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      • ChopperRead
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        #13
        Originally posted by ikim322
        Your ******ity boggles the mind. Nice argument there. If Haye were bigger he'd win!!! How about this...If Pacquaio suddenly grew a foot and packed on 100 lbs while retaining how he fights....he'd DESTROY Wlad. No contest!!!!

        No but seriously. Just stfu and think before you post.
        I am always amazed at people who posit this "the Klitschkos only win because of their size" argument.

        Funny, back when he was initially fighting George Foreman was considered to be a very big man, and I never heard that said about him.

        I didn't hear it said much about Lennox Lewis, who is the same size as the K-Bros, either.

        But when it's two Eastern Europeans whose names sound Russian, suddenly they "only win because of their size."

        This argument just doesn't hold up to any rational scrutiny. Yet it keeps being regurgitated regularly by those who feel the Klitschkos' achievements must be belittled, no matter what.

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        • ChopperRead
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          #14
          Originally posted by FerdinandMarcos
          I don't see any Black fighters from Cleveland or anywhere else getting any love from the US media.

          WHERE ARE ALL THESE BLACK FIGHTERS GETTING LAVISHED BY AMERICA'S ANTI-WHITE MEDIA???

          The Klit brothers better be glad their boring asses aren't Black Americans....if a guy with Floyd's skills gets ****ted on by America's media.....they'd get shredded if they were Black

          Black fighters suffer the more for lack of a fanbase....yet....for some reason....you're here acting like they get all this love.

          Sometimes i wonder...
          Yes, you must wonder, as you are confused anyway -- where did I say "black" fighters from Cleveland anywhere here?

          I said American -- not African American. Please learn how to read.

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          • Canelo Phresh
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            #15
            Originally posted by ChopperRead
            I am always amazed at people who posit this "the Klitschkos only win because of their size" argument.

            Funny, back when he was initially fighting George Foreman was considered to be a very big man, and I never heard that said about him.

            I didn't hear it said much about Lennox Lewis, who is the same size as the K-Bros, either.

            But when it's two Eastern Europeans whose names sound Russian, suddenly they "only win because of their size."

            This argument just doesn't hold up to any rational scrutiny. Yet it keeps being regurgitated regularly by those who feel the Klitschkos' achievements must be belittled, no matter what.
            in a p4p fight against pac they would be brutalized.

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            • ChopperRead
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              #16
              Originally posted by Mannie Phresh
              in a p4p fight against pac they would be brutalized.
              Apples and oranges. The heavyweight division is a different animal and requires different things than lower weight divisions. If Pacquiao was 6'7 and weighed 240 pounds he would be a entirely different fighter and might not be able to compete at a high level. So it works both ways.

              P4P fantasy fights are fun, but that's just what they are, a fantasy and not applicable in the real world of fighting.

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              • The Surgeon
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                #17
                Originally posted by ikim322
                Your ******ity boggles the mind. Nice argument there. If Haye were bigger he'd win!!! How about this...If Pacquaio suddenly grew a foot and packed on 100 lbs while retaining how he fights....he'd DESTROY Wlad. No contest!!!!

                No but seriously. Just stfu and think before you post.
                P1ss of maggot, im pointing out that the main reason Klitchko wins is his size advantage not any other attribute like skill. And Haye is knocking his ass out regardless u ****ing Ring Worm now keep ur lip in check and **** off

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                • ShoulderRoll
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                  #18
                  LOL

                  Ward can string together fluid multipunch combinations.

                  The Klits think a jab-right hand is the height of combination punching. Sometimes they'll even get creative and follow that up with a left hook.

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                  • jrosales13
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                    #19
                    Because it's a mythical opinion based ranking. Is make believe, you can have your list anyway you want

                    I personally have Wlad @ #5 on my list ahead of Ward. But, you can make that list anyway you want, it doesn't really matter.

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                    • FerdinandMarcos
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      LOL

                      Ward can string together fluid multipunch combinations.

                      The Klits think a jab-right hand is the height of combination punching. Sometimes they'll even get creative and follow that up with a left hook.
                      Well said.......

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